WTF is wrong with people

VidX · Post by **VidX** » Thu May 12, 2005 6:47 pm

Bugzy wrote:I do agree there - for duo/trio play there isn't many mobs you can rely on which can put a dent on things.

As for ml raid leaders who like to do 2-3 ml's on a weekend - you need to understand that not all of us can play 24/7. The decrease in people attending isn't due to leaders being gimped but rather to stupid times. (imo).

Aye, if there was one raid a week it would get alot more people, possibly a Sunday afternoon/evening would be the best, weekdays/nights just don't work for alot or people

Briannon · Post by **Briannon** » Thu May 12, 2005 9:36 pm

Ankh Morpork wrote:yeah, I heard that..but I sure as hell dont want artis/mls disabled..it would have been fine if we never got them in the first place but imo its to late now..

edit: Unless there is some kind of compensation involved ofc

/Ankh

It would be a new and additional server that peeps would create new characters on.

Ankh Morpork · Post by **Ankh Morpork** » Thu May 12, 2005 10:15 pm

Briannon wrote:It would be a new and additional server that peeps would create new characters on.

Thats a compensation I wouldnt want..I sure as hell didnt spend this much time with my chars only to restart. So problem is (for me) that I proberbly would leave if they removed artis/mls or if everyone else left to restart on a new server.

/Ankh

Briannon · Post by **Briannon** » Fri May 13, 2005 1:07 pm

Ankh Morpork wrote:Thats a compensation I wouldnt want..I sure as hell didnt spend this much time with my chars only to restart. So problem is (for me) that I proberbly would leave if they removed artis/mls or if everyone else left to restart on a new server.

/Ankh

Don't see it as an either/or option Ankh, its just an additional option that people could choose to use or not.

Where I think the european game really suffers in comparison to the US game is the lack of alternative server types. Over here we have normal and PvP. Over there we have normal, PvP, roleplaying and co-operative server types, and now they're talking about a fifth type. They also have clustered and non-clustered servers too. For me, these options keep the game experience fresh and we could do with a few more server types here in europe.

pikeh · Post by **pikeh** » Fri May 13, 2005 2:07 pm

Briannon wrote:Don't see it as an either/or option Ankh, its just an additional option that people could choose to use or not.

Where I think the european game really suffers in comparison to the US game is the lack of alternative server types. Over here we have normal and PvP. Over there we have normal, PvP, roleplaying and co-operative server types, and now they're talking about a fifth type. They also have clustered and non-clustered servers too. For me, these options keep the game experience fresh and we could do with a few more server types here in europe.

yeh lets have more server types

. the two main english servers are already underpopulated and you want all of this fluff on top of it?

Briannon · Post by **Briannon** » Fri May 13, 2005 3:14 pm

pikeh wrote:yeh lets have more server types . the two main english servers are already underpopulated and you want all of this fluff on top of it?

I never said these options would come or that they are realistic with the current state of the game, all I said was that in comparison with the US game the European game is not as varied as its counterpart over the pond.

I wouldn't agree with your description of this as fluff Pikeh, but hey ho, we can agree to disagree on that one.

In truth I think the future of DAoC in Europe is very very dicey because of WoW. The number of servers, and the size of european player base far outstrips anything that GOA can offer for DAoC and with the imminent opening of WoW battlegrounds, even the DAoC PvP/RvR experience could be challenged (I agree that DAoC is the best MMORPG for RvR/PvP that there is at the moment).

I would truly love to see the additional server types in Europe, especially a co-operative server, but I DO recognise that with the current state of the game there is probably no economic case for the additional costs GOA would incur by implementing them.

Hemuli · Post by **Hemuli** » Fri May 13, 2005 6:05 pm

Never really heard anything about camping rules. They doesn't w0rk. At next time pull faster maybe ?

Adalyn · Post by **Adalyn** » Fri May 13, 2005 7:38 pm

Hemuli wrote:Never really heard anything about camping rules. They doesn't w0rk. At next time pull faster maybe ?

Why would they want to pull faster? they pulled first, which then a grp of 3 pulled danos of our bard while he was running it to shrooms = against coc, which then we tried to get danos back on us but he had enchanter on danos alrdy, but then they died and we repulled instantly when they died which then Nolby Pride ran in with some bard and pull it of us while we was runnign to shrooms again and they killed it.

We hit danos first, we pulled first, don't see why peopel go brake coc to get a arti, pretty sad.

Tuorin · Post by **Tuorin** » Sat May 14, 2005 7:50 am

Have to say this really. I've been over to golm several times in last month and invariably it was always the same people there. 9/10 would be standing there obviously afk, the other 1/10 would pm on inc and say "my mob ive been here xxx hours"

The remaining 9/10 within the next 10 minutes would then pm the above, quote coc before I replied and advise re right now. All 10 are wrong. I grouped with Killsimba if I recall to get credit and then went and bought the arti for 8p from some greedy bastards cm.

Arti-camping imo is extremely sad. Its generally the same people. I wont agree with what was done, but also find it really sad that you go check arti-spots and the same people or their alts are there every time you do. They almost all pm the message above. So imo the people that camp mobs can just be as greedy as everyone else.

Its not really any of our faults, toa is the scurge. Just delete it

Bugzy · Post by **Bugzy** » Sat May 14, 2005 9:26 am

[quote="Tuorin"]Have to say this really. I've been over to golm several times in last month and invariably it was always the same people there. 9/10 would be standing there obviously afk, the other 1/10 would pm on inc and say "my mob ive been here xxx hours"

The remaining 9/10 within the next 10 minutes would then pm the above, quote coc before I replied and advise re right now. All 10 are wrong. I grouped with Killsimba if I recall to get credit and then went and bought the arti for 8p from some greedy bastards cm.

Arti-camping imo is extremely sad. Its generally the same people. I wont agree with what was done, but also find it really sad that you go check arti-spots and the same people or their alts are there every time you do. They almost all pm the message above. So imo the people that camp mobs can just be as greedy as everyone else.

Its not really any of our faults, toa is the scurge. Just delete it ]

Mobs like GoLM are a totally different story though. For it you need one character unlike GoV where you need 4 players with the right abilities (at least).

I don't see camping as a right to hit the mob as soon as it spawns but i do see camping as a way to acknowledge that the mob has spawned and then to get people here to try and pull first. Generally if you've been camping a mob 7 hours then by all kindness you should be allowed first pop of the mob IF you have the amount to kill it.