AC raids GOA start a discussion:

Post by **Lieva** » Fri Jan 12, 2007 6:46 am

Dardalion wrote:Thought similair tbh, coupled with the "i'm off to italy tomorow then on holiday for 3 weeks" .... why post this now ?

who?

requiel is??

Heta · Post by **Heta** » Fri Jan 12, 2007 6:46 am

well its not me atleast

Belisar · Post by **Belisar** » Fri Jan 12, 2007 1:32 pm

Lieva wrote:who?

requiel is??

Yup.

Req is off to Italy so is not likely to be reading or responding to the thread very much.

Post by **Lieva** » Fri Jan 12, 2007 2:07 pm

Belisar wrote:Yup.

Req is off to Italy so is not likely to be reading or responding to the thread very much.

haha

oh i like him

hes evil

starts a discussion that could provoke flames then heads off to the sunset

wonder if we can make him mod here

Arcsalin · Post by **Arcsalin** » Fri Jan 12, 2007 2:46 pm

Ovi wrote:But the point is if they are prepared to get enough people on an AC raid then fair play they deserve the relics.

The problem is that it was possible to take relics with 1fg, which is possible with no organisation, just people playing at their usual, albeit unsocial, hours.

As I said, it isn't ideal, I have yet to see a better alternative.

My idea as I said earlier in the thread, works in a fairer much more balanced principle. Meaning you can't pve relics, which is what rvr is all about. The idea is so good even uncle Xest agreed with me Oo!

Belisar · Post by **Belisar** » Fri Jan 12, 2007 2:46 pm

I think it is a shabby way to treat a sensitive subject.

Makes me wonder if this is just a bit of 'lip service' and trying to be seen to be caring or doing the right thing when there is no actual intent to do anything positive as a result. At the moment when Mythic asks about low numbers at least they can say 'we tried to understand the problem' - but in reality it is all bluff and bluster.

Hope Req proves me wrong.

Arcsalin · Post by **Arcsalin** » Fri Jan 12, 2007 2:48 pm

Belisar wrote:I thinki t is a shabby way to treat a sensitive subject.

Makes me wonder if this is just a bit of 'lip service' and trying to be seen to be caring or doing the right thing when in reality there is no intent to do anything positive as a result.

Hope Req proves me wrong.

On that we will see, which reminds me, i must speak with Req some time soon :>

Ovi · Post by **Ovi** » Fri Jan 12, 2007 4:56 pm

Arcsalin wrote:My idea as I said earlier in the thread, works in a fairer much more balanced principle. Meaning you can't pve relics, which is what rvr is all about. The idea is so good even uncle Xest agreed with me Oo!

We'll have to agree to disagree, I don't see it being fair to lock relics so that people who can't play during Prime-time have to always miss out on a part of the game.

Post by **Xest** » Fri Jan 12, 2007 5:08 pm

Ovi wrote:We'll have to agree to disagree, I don't see it being fair to lock relics so that people who can't play during Prime-time have to always miss out on a part of the game.

Point is if it wasn't people waking up for the specific aim of alarm clock raids they probably wouldn't see that part of the game anyway.

Gandelf · Post by **Gandelf** » Fri Jan 12, 2007 7:12 pm

Just an interesting thought:- What if relics had negative effects instead of positive? Then instead of capturing relics you would have to successfully plant your own inside enemy keeps so that that realm would then have minus power, or minus strength. If you own just your own realm's relics, then there would be nil effect on your realm, but if you successfully plant them in an enemy keep, then the enemy realm would suffer detrimental effects. Once planted in an enemy keep, your realm's relics would not be able to be removed until say 24 hours had elapsed, during which time the realm who had them would suffer detrimental effects.

You see, it would be easy to remove enemy relics from your own keeps, because the keep guards would be on your side and you wouldn't have to use siege. So if say the Albs did an AC raid to place their relics inside your keep, then it would be easy to get rid of them after the 24 hours had elapsed just by returning them to that realm's frontier and dropping them on the ground. A realm-wide message would then be shown in the chat panel that its relics had been deposited back on their frontier somewhere. If those dropped relics were then not discovered by the owning realm before a certain time had elapsed, then the relics would materialise back into the relic keep of the realm to whom they belong. If the realm did find them in time and if they were picked up, then they would only have to be deposited on the frontier ground of the realm who first returned them to the enemy frontier, for them to materialise back in the keep of that realm, where they couldn't be removed for another 24 hours.

I don't suppose that makes sense, but at least give me credit for thinking of it should Mythic implement it.

Edit: Now you know why my IQ is 138!