Clustering of English servers... are we getting a bad deal?

[Ovi]

No more new English servers please, this is a bad idea because there is simply not big enough playerbase for it and the result would be further decline in the population on the current servers. Although I would not mind Prydwen and Excalibur getting unclustered :>

Clustering allows the whole Eu-En player base to play together, since all (two) of the Eu-En servers are clustered.

Adding a third server to the cluster would not really decline the population on the current servers, since all 3 server populations would be clustered. The only effect would be on the levelling, but that is already beyond help imo, new players will get shafted either way and existing players either PL with 2nd accounts or grind Catacombs dungeons.

The advantage would be that we would have the choice of all 3 realms. I think the classic server is more of a threat, since that won't be clustered, and therefore will split the Eu-En playerbase.

[Ankh Morpork]

I'm quite happy with clustering, but I did make 2 accounts with mid/exc and one with alb/exc before it got clustered (even if I dont play there)

/Ankh

[Fifta]

All they have to do is to allow everyone to roll toons to all of the three realms, like in the beta or on camlann

[HappyG]

DAoC is a RvR game.

Point of this game is, to get the equipment, go out on the field and kill.

Sofar, I havent seen any high-RR player cry about ToA, and lack of server choice, because obviously they know how to play a PvP game.

Ussualy it's people who do not have a single RR5 character, that cry out all the time. They roll XYZ alts on XY realms, play them all to lvl 30, and farm some unbelievable /played time on those, and when they do shit out on the field, they /point at high RR people (who ussulay focus on their single char) and cry about "powergamers who have no lives outside the game".

In every game, there are priorities, there are things to measure your e-penis with. In DAoC main e-penis measurment is how good you are in RvR, not how many alts you have. So unless you are Puppethealer, focus on a single char, get it out on the field and enjoy. WoW provides you with much more pleasant leveling system and a few dozen of servers to choose from, so if you believe leveling alts is THE way to spend your time, reconsider changing the game.

PS: Cluster just lowered the realm appurtenance feeling in my opinion (and because of the reasons I mentioned early) they should just put in 1 week timer to change the realm

[Ankh Morpork]

so if you believe leveling alts is THE way to spend your time, reconsider changing the game.

Why? So what you say that just cos people enjoy leveling alts they should think about changing mmorpg? No offence mate, but thats a load of BS. Everyone has the right to play this game what ever way they want. Be it RvR or PvE. You DONT have to get level 50, get template, get ML and then just play rvr. If it was just that part they could have removed everything and just let you start at level 50 from the start. I play both rvr/pve and I enjoy both just as much.

So imo if a guy prefer to stay inside hibernia (or any other realm) its entirely up to him. And if people wanna concider pve to be (as you put i) THE way to spend time in daoc...its still THEIR choice and THEIR oppinion.
Not really right that people who played both exc/pry should be forced to pick one of them. I mean, they could have put just as much energy/time in both servers so why should they suffer cos of the cluster?

PS: Cluster just lowered the realm appurtenance feeling in my opinion (and because of the reasons I mentioned early) they should just put in 1 week timer to change the realm

1h is good but ofc it might have been better with abit more. but 1 week is way too much imo. Problem is that no matter what timer they put there are always people who can bypass it using others accounts...or irc..or msn..or phones...or what ever they wish to use.

/Ankh

[Elrandhir]

Agrees with Ankh!

was more or less what I would have said if I hadent been to lazy to do so ;D

[Aran_Thule]

Voted against it, but more people voted for, not much we can really do about it.

Adding a new server will not solve problems, just futhere divide thoose still playing.

What we need if for a mass advertising campaine and games in the high street so a lot of people join at the same time.
At the moment if someone joins they are finding the lower levels very lonely.

[Kallima]

These problems with clustering were discussed before the vote. The information available made it clear they would exist. I know I posted about them myself. The vote was in favour of clustering, and now we have to accept the results, both good and bad. I don't think a new english server is going to happen.

For me the worst problem is that the new players we need to join the game are badly penalised since they can only play one realm on an English server, where before they could play two. Camlann is PVP, and very difficult for people starting out, so not a comparable server to Prydwen or Excalibur.

DAoC is a RvR game.

Point of this game is, to get the equipment, go out on the field and kill.

Sofar, I havent seen any high-RR player cry about ToA, and lack of server choice, because obviously they know how to play a PvP game.

Ussualy it's people who do not have a single RR5 character, that cry out all the time. They roll XYZ alts on XY realms, play them all to lvl 30, and farm some unbelievable /played time on those, and when they do shit out on the field, they /point at high RR people (who ussulay focus on their single char) and cry about "powergamers who have no lives outside the game".

In every game, there are priorities, there are things to measure your e-penis with. In DAoC main e-penis measurment is how good you are in RvR, not how many alts you have. So unless you are Puppethealer, focus on a single char, get it out on the field and enjoy. WoW provides you with much more pleasant leveling system and a few dozen of servers to choose from, so if you believe leveling alts is THE way to spend your time, reconsider changing the game.

PS: Cluster just lowered the realm appurtenance feeling in my opinion (and because of the reasons I mentioned early) they should just put in 1 week timer to change the realm

There are many ways to have fun from this game. Some have one focus, some try many things. I PvE with a multitude of characters I play incompetently. I am an RvR n00b mostly focussed on one RR7 character. I roleplay, chat to friends, and eat chocolate cake. Others get their fun from how they enjoy playing, and however they choose to do it is fine by me.

I am female, I have no e-penis and don't want one. There is only one wrong way to play a game as far as I am concerned, and that is if you choose to actively spoil the fun of others. Have 50 level 5 characters, or have one level 50 and be RR11. Do what you enjoy and have fun.

[Quinlan]

I am female, I have no e-penis and don't want one.

<Must....refrain...from....commenting>

[Sharkith]

DAoC is a RvR game.

Point of this game is, to get the equipment, go out on the field and kill.

Sofar, I havent seen any high-RR player cry about ToA, and lack of server choice, because obviously they know how to play a PvP game.

Ussualy it's people who do not have a single RR5 character, that cry out all the time. They roll XYZ alts on XY realms, play them all to lvl 30, and farm some unbelievable /played time on those, and when they do shit out on the field, they /point at high RR people (who ussulay focus on their single char) and cry about "powergamers who have no lives outside the game".

In every game, there are priorities, there are things to measure your e-penis with. In DAoC main e-penis measurment is how good you are in RvR, not how many alts you have. So unless you are Puppethealer, focus on a single char, get it out on the field and enjoy. WoW provides you with much more pleasant leveling system and a few dozen of servers to choose from, so if you believe leveling alts is THE way to spend your time, reconsider changing the game.

PS: Cluster just lowered the realm appurtenance feeling in my opinion (and because of the reasons I mentioned early) they should just put in 1 week timer to change the realm

so many reductions and generalisations in one post it is hard to see where to start (Ankhs was fair imo).

So you have a high rr character, you have a ranger that doesn't group

Its not so much your suggestion to play another game just because your not going to be rr5 or higher that irritates its more the self confessed navel gazing arrogance of it all.