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Ok, so if I get it right its because you spend a lot of blood sweat and tears in your char and set groups that you dont want ppl adding to your fights?
Partly - though that makes it sound like a grim thing, whereas actually that feeling of learning something b/c finally got a clean fight and you can see how everything comes together, that feeling is pure joy.
You rather die to a full grp than get help?
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Its about status and becoming well known by mids and albs?
Not really, no. As I said, maybe just a little bit, but it's a very minor part of my motivation. We want to be good at what we do, and a bit of recognition is always nice. We want to play well as individuals and as a team, and good rep for our guilds, for Prydwen and for Hibernia should be part of what we acheive *if* we ever manage to get good enough for that! :D
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Satyn wrote:Ok, so if I get it right its because you spend a lot of blood sweat and tears in your char and set groups that you dont want ppl adding to your fights?
No
Satyn wrote:You rather die to a full grp than get help?
Yes
Satyn wrote:Its about status and becoming well known by mids and albs?
No
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Satyn wrote:Ok, so if I get it right its because you spend a lot of blood sweat and tears in your char and set groups that you dont want ppl adding to your fights?
You rather die to a full grp than get help?
Its about status and becoming well known by mids and albs?

Thats how it is Satyn ;D
And where the former poster had No,yes,no I would change that to...Yes,Yes,yes =P

For me this is not the case though, I play for fun and fun only ;D I couldent care less about if someone thinks Im good or bad or whatever aslong as I have fun ;D still like to win fg vs fg fights etc though ;D
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Why is this so hard to understand?

Those who like 8v8 or 1v1 fights are not imposing their playstyle on anyone - in fact it is physically impossible for them to do so. Yes some of them whine and flame in an unproductive manner but there isn't much else they can do.

The people who are happy to add on anything are imposing their playstyle and values on the first lot, which is (not surprisingly) a cause for resentment.

Any kind of code for the first lot doesn't address the problem in any way whatsoever because they already have a code - the issue is that the second lot (who have every right to disagree with the first lot) won't let the first lot do their thing.


There's 2 other points being made both here and on FH which are getting a bit tangled up with the above:
1) Mods shouldn't be taking sides - it has happened here, it is happening a lot on FH and it kills a forum very quickly
2) The people who everybody really hates are those who say one thing and do another... i.e. Synergy.
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Thats how it is Satyn ;D
And where the former poster had No,yes,no I would change that to...Yes,Yes,yes =P
Are you saying that's how it is for YOU, Elrandhir? YOU care about status? Or are you trying to answer for me, Maxis, Genedril etc... Are you suggesting that we're lying? :?
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[quote="Elrandhir"]Thats how it is Satyn ]

Congratulations, you're a mind reader [/sarcasm off]. Max is as sound a person as you're likely to meet & if you think he thinks like that then more pity for you.

You know what you've just implied is no worse than anyone implying that anyone that doesn't RvR exclusively in a FG or solo is a talentless turd that shouldn't be allowed within the vicinty of a computer, let alone allowed online. Which is deeply untrue & as such just as much a complete load of b******s.
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ambera wrote:Are you saying that's how it is for YOU, Elrandhir? YOU care about status? Or are you trying to answer for me, Maxis, Genedril etc... Are you suggesting that we're lying? :?

heh, I can read what I like of posts also =P
Im saying anyone is lying Im saying thats how it seems to be generally(well for some, guess generalisation is never good)
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Genedril wrote:Congratulations, you're a mind reader [/sarcasm off]. Max is as sound a person as you're likely to meet & if you think he thinks like that then more pity for you.

You know what you've just implied is no worse than anyone implying that anyone that doesn't RvR exclusively in a FG or solo is a talentless turd that shouldn't be allowed within the vicinty of a computer, let alone allowed online. Which is deeply untrue & as such just as much a complete load of b******s.

Im not really implying anything, I post as I see it often, not always, but from reeding posts, seeing how people are etc. not saying that all are either, so Im not sure why you need to show any aggro atall tbh, soft spot?

I don't see anything I said to be way off, and I aint always 100% serious in posts like some seem to be ;D
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If you meant 'some people' rather than non-adders in general or even Max in particular, you should have said so, as that was very much NOT clear from your post.
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ambera wrote:If you meant 'some people' rather than non-adders in general or even Max in particular, you should have said so, as that was very much NOT clear from your post.

Well Im Swedish I can't help make some posts abit unclear sometimes im afraid, everything I have posted I stand by, even though I aint 100% serious in all posts ofcourse, some are just to stiff tbh and taking everything all to serious.
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