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Post by Cryn »

Xest wrote:I think you're confusing being a forum poster with being a customer. As a forum user you're here because those who are paying the running costs - Banana and Ayana are willing to let you be here. With a service like DAoC for example you have a right to complain about how it's run as you're paying for the service.
I certainly appreciate the work of the people who are running the forum, but let's not build things into something they are not. It's running a web forum we're talking about.

You may like to think that everyone is here on sufferance and that therefore it's some kinda club owned by Banana and you're one of the bouncers, but I doubt very much whether Banana herself sees it that way.

The prydwen.net community is without a doubt enabled by the work done on the forum past and present, but it is also here because the prydwen community was pleasant and friendly and people wanted to be part of it. That's not gonna last long if we turn it into some kinda private club where a few chosen individuals can do what they like and others are told they should be grateful for even being allowed to post.

Maybe you could lay off a bit on the hard line stuff and get a bit of perspective. I disagreed with something Sat and Thand said to Gandelf, and I criticised them for it, and then Sat created this thread (in response or not in response, whatever you like). All this putting your boot in doesn't really help anyone.
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Post by Hemuli »

omg, stop it. U need only accept with mods. Now and at future. kkthx.
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Post by Xest »

Cryn wrote:I certainly appreciate the work of the people who are running the forum, but let's not build things into something they are not. It's running a web forum we're talking about.

You may like to think that everyone is here on sufferance and that therefore it's some kinda club owned by Banana and you're one of the bouncers, but I doubt very much whether Banana herself sees it that way.

The prydwen.net community is without a doubt enabled by the work done on the forum past and present, but it is also here because the prydwen community was pleasant and friendly and people wanted to be part of it. That's not gonna last long if we turn it into some kinda private club where a few chosen individuals can do what they like and others are told they should be grateful for even being allowed to post.

Maybe you could lay off a bit on the hard line stuff and get a bit of perspective. I disagreed with something Sat and Thand said to Gandelf, and I criticised them for it, and then Sat created this thread (in response or not in response, whatever you like). All this putting your boot in doesn't really help anyone.
Perhaps you need to lay off thinking you have some god given right to dictate forum policy and rules?

I haven't once said for a second that we should turn this into some private club so I've no idea why you made that random crap up. Well actually that's a lie, I do know why, you did it in an attempt to strengthen your weak argument and try and put me down in the process, but I don't think anyone's dumb enough to fall for it luckily. If your selective memory allows you to think back you'll remember that Pryd.net was down for a good month or more until Banana finally bit the bullet it to pay for the domain out of her own pocket and Ayana donated the hosting, also when Tenpit originally tried to offload the weight of the forums the only serious offer that stepped up was Kesxex's which for some reason also failed and was given up on after a short while. The fact is, the only people serious about keeping these forums afloat have been Banana, Ayana and Tenpit, therefore, at the end of the day it's their say how the forums are run.

Also, as you always do when your arguments begin to fail you start to twist things, in this case you're suddenly suggesting that my comments with regards to you not paying for the forum hence not being in a position to dictate it's policies is somehow related to my comments regarding the Gandelf/Satyn incident, just to clear things up for you as you seem a little confused:

- I stated that you can't dictate whether or not mods are allowed an opinion as it's not you who dictates forum policy as it's not you who stepped up to pay for and ensure the forums kept afloat.

- I stated that Satyn's comments towards Gandelf were no more personally focussed than yours to Satyn

Quite how you managed to merge the two all of a sudden I'm not sure.
Ovi wrote:The attitude expressed in your posts implies that we have to accept what the mods say whether we like it or not is a certain way to kill the forums. Since those of us that don't like it will stop visiting, and it seems enough have already stopped visiting recently.
Depends, I'm not saying you should bow down to the mods over anything, I am saying however that you can't just go saying Satyn shouldn't be allowed to be treated the same as any other forum user. Your argument would be valid if it was in response to a moderator/admin decision that resulted in a vast majority disagreement with the decision but in this case it's not - it's undetermined eitherway so to spout it as gospel is unfair. It's just not a valid tool to use to try and suggest Satyn has done anything wrong. Also I'm amazed that you haven't managed to notice that the decrease in forum population correlates with the decrease in server population.
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Post by Mojo »

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Post by Mojo »

Succi wrote:I think some ppl wanna make a big deal of things cuz they wanna spend as much time as possible on this forum


whether thats good or abit sad you decide
That coupled with over sensitivity ;)
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Post by Elrandhir »

It's rather funny this tbh such a long thread and I can't see who would be right or wrong, or whatever, just people trying to bend the words to their own favour, or try to make others think as they do, making this a neverending loop =P

Seems more to me that people just have to be right, bah wonder why I even bother to make another post, the last ones dident do much good =P

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Post by Xest »

I kinda agree, I'd lock it because it is going nowhere but I wouldn't want to open myself up to being accused of abusing moderator powers for my own end!
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Post by Ayana »

Xest wrote:I kinda agree, I'd lock it because it is going nowhere but I wouldn't want to open myself up to being accused of abusing moderator powers for my own end!
I'm willing to take that risk, closed.

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