Dare I ask... (another one for GOA)

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Haarewin wrote:expletives are there to help get a point across. people being so angry about something that they resort to swearing isn't exactly uncommon.
at the end of the day, they are just words. people add the connotations to them, and then become offended because of things they have associated with the word.
It's not all about getting offended, its also about being able to have a dispute without the need of harsh language just to make a statement.

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Xest wrote:That's not really fair, he's paid to do a community facing job and GOA as a company are doing a hell of a lot of things wrong, the community is therefore very angry at that and Requiel takes it all to heart and just leaves the forums, it's not the communities fault but quite simply that Requiel is incompetent at his job. He has two options, make sure something is done about the issues at GOA so that the community is less agressive, or find a job that he can actually do without getting upset about the reaction of the community he's supposed to be dealing with.

Instead now, we have a company who is doing a hell of a lot of things wrong, a community that is very upset at the things being done wrong and now the person who's meant to be passing information between the two, refusing to do so because he can't take the heat personally.

I know this is a pretty controversal thing to say, but having Requiel as a customer facing person is just another blatant thing that GOA are doing wrong, they need someone who can actually do the job.
I would not put it as strongly as this. Who knows what flack he is taking in work let alone what he is taking here. Walk a day in his shoes before getting too personal. However that said a personal opinion is that yes his reaction in this thread was OTT and it caused a lot of this flaming. The question that still remains in my mind is how many would go if it came to it and if so what deadline or incident would that groups set.

I have had a few words around the game and there are those that will leave - not many people give two damns right now for GOA. Like Ambera I will not walk out of my firends, the fixed group or my guild - if enough go I am going to be first in line. We could go to Merlin form an Prydwen in Exile guild and then WTF pwn Xest. :devlin:
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Ankh Morpork wrote:It's not all about getting offended, its also about being able to have a dispute without the need of harsh language just to make a statement.

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Sharkith wrote:I have had a few words around the game and there are those that will leave - not many people give two damns right now for GOA. Like Ambera I will not walk out of my firends, the fixed group or my guild - if enough go I am going to be first in line. We could go to Merlin form an Prydwen in Exile guild and then WTF pwn Xest. :devlin:
This is probably about the only thing left which might make GOA react, if only to close the English-cluster because it might no longer be profitable after a certain number of account closures, even if that doesn't seem likely looking at the population of the spanish server. Sadly, closing GOAs English-Cluster is probably also the only way in which the UK players might end up getting a decent service, because it doesn't seem likely we'll get it from GOA.
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OohhoO wrote: closing GOAs English-Cluster is probably also the only way in which the UK players might end up getting a decent service, because they sure as hell will never get it from GOA.
How exactly is that going to work then.. they close the English server then we wont have a game here.. and most that are saying "im off to the US, goa suckyballs bigtime" talk absoulute rubbish because they wont at all.. because most who flame away and hang on every word which is stated are just taking advantage of a situation to jump on the flame goa wagon..and you know it..
and IMO i think we get good value form money tbh.. for what £2.00 a week you get to play a game online and interact with people from EU and your own country.. for what less that a Pint of beer.. also people complaining about the xml being down,.. where exactly does it say from GOA that the xml data is included in the service of which Goa offer for the paying of £2.00 a week - £8.00 pm..
ahh i hear you say "well mythic offer xml" <sniffle sniffle> but Goa aint mythic and what say mythic stopped there xml.. I say mythic offer xml as a nice little on the side service... and as they are the game producers they can write it into the coding when doing patches.. where as Goa have to wait to get the patches then translate them then write coding for xml files which incidentally is different to Mythics because its most probably copywrited..

so i challenge somebody here and now to show me where it says GOA have to offer the xml service as part of the £8.00 I spend a month per account..

im not standing Goa's corner with being e&e and yes xml is handy when its up and working and has been a great feature, but it hasnt stopped anybody from playing.. and i see its annoying not to be there.. but if its a added feature and not a service product.. then we have no right to argue and flame the people and company who give us this FREE service.
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There is a part of me which feels very sorry for Requiel as a human being for having had to deal with the aggressive reaction of parts of the community towards the arguably lacking service of GOA.

There is another part of me which asks WTF he is doing blaming the community for it's reaction to GOAs shortcomings. I know I personally couldn't handle doing his job, but it's also not a job I would even consider taking.

I'm guessing he feels himself caught between the (justifiable) dissatisfaction of the community on the one hand, and the demands of his employer on the other. In which case I personally would be looking for another job.
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Norcott wrote:so i challenge somebody here and now to show me where it says GOA have to offer the xml service as part of the £8.00 I spend a month per account..
I challenge you to tell me where does it say DAoC needs to have RvR zones as part of the €10 I spend a month per account, and asking you at the same time, what would you say if hypoteticly Frontiers would suddenly dissapear from servers? That we are not entitled to have Frontiers, because it is not written in the CoC?
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[quote="HappyG"]I challenge you to tell me where does it say DAoC needs to have RvR zones as part of the &#8364]

When you buy the game it says in the manual that it has those zones. What else you need? I see nowhere in the manual where it tells that it includes xml for the players.

edit: Yeah I know it doesnt say that it HAVE to included those zones..but it does say its a part of it. So technically it should be included on every normal server.

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Norcott wrote:How exactly is that going to work then.. they close the English server then we wont have a game here.. and most that are saying "im off to the US, goa suckyballs bigtime" talk absoulute rubbish because they wont at all.. because most who flame away and hang on every word which is stated are just taking advantage of a situation to jump on the flame goa wagon..and you know it..
and IMO i think we get good value form money tbh.. for what £2.00 a week you get to play a game online and interact with people from EU and your own country.. for what less that a Pint of beer.. also people complaining about the xml being down,.. where exactly does it say from GOA that the xml data is included in the service of which Goa offer for the paying of £2.00 a week - £8.00 pm..
ahh i hear you say "well mythic offer xml" <sniffle sniffle> but Goa aint mythic and what say mythic stopped there xml.. I say mythic offer xml as a nice little on the side service... and as they are the game producers they can write it into the coding when doing patches.. where as Goa have to wait to get the patches then translate them then write coding for xml files which incidentally is different to Mythics because its most probably copywrited..

so i challenge somebody here and now to show me where it says GOA have to offer the xml service as part of the £8.00 I spend a month per account..

im not standing Goa's corner with being e&e and yes xml is handy when its up and working and has been a great feature, but it hasnt stopped anybody from playing.. and i see its annoying not to be there.. but if its a added feature and not a service product.. then we have no right to argue and flame the people and company who give us this FREE service.
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As some of you know I played on the US servers since release. I left Mythics servers because I had difficulty relating to the community there post-TOA, & came to GOAs servers where I suspected (correctly) that the community would be more to my liking but expected (wrongly) a similar level of service to Mythics servers.

Now I find myself caught between Mythics servers, where the community doesn't suit me but in my opinion the service is OK, & GOAs servers, where in my opinion the community is superb but the service sucks in comparison.

If the community on Mythics servers was as good as on Prydwen I would never have left.
If GOAs service was anywhere near Mythics I wouldn't consider leaving.

& before you flame, I know ... I should deal with it or GTFO :(
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