Patch highlights (imho)

[Lieva]

Shepherd Master Level experience will now be awarded anytime someone in your group completes a step for which you already have credit. For example, an ML2 player could not receive MLXP for Shepherding a player on an ML6 step, even if they had already completed the step.

oh thank heavens for that
Should get people helping more on all raids that need the bodies

[Cromcruaich]

What about the spirit of the hunt cooldown going from 30 mins to 20, still think it should be 7 mins like on BM and zerker

Added it

[Lothandar]

What about the spirit of the hunt cooldown going from 30 mins to 20, still think it should be 7 mins like on BM and zerker

Agreed, if zerkers can kick my ass every 7 minutes I should be able to mooze every 7 minutes as well

[Elrandhir]

Agreed, if zerkers can kick my ass every 7 minutes I should be able to mooze every 7 minutes as well

Is all to long yes, I even forget to use it lots of times as it has so long Downtime, sure 20 mins is better then 30, but as you say it's still way to long really ;<

[Mytmaril]

[quote="Elrandhir"]Is all to long yes, I even forget to use it lots of times as it has so long Downtime, sure 20 mins is better then 30, but as you say it's still way to long really ]

thx for quick info crom:)

i think hereos are still nerfed, identique classes like armsman or warrior too
well maybe warrior aint with testudo while bg'ing a caster...
nothing special on hero (imo) givf somethink good tbh ;p what u think?

[gene]

iirc moose gives you hp? gives you 50% at lvl 50, while zerk/bm improves damage, so thats like having 2x IP prob why its on long timer

[Gahn]

[quote="Mytmaril"]thx for quick info crom:)

i think hereos are still nerfed, identique classes like armsman or warrior too
well maybe warrior aint with testudo while bg'ing a caster...
nothing special on hero (imo) givf somethink good tbh ]

As long as they don't give something really useful at Armsman we gonna be shafted imo.

[Gandelf]

Eldritches get some additional single target disease buffs too, up to level 46.

The disease spell as always been a problem, because before, you sometimes were in a dilemma whether to use the top 3 min. disease spell or not, because it is aoe and will pull other mobs. Getting single target versions of the disease (at higher level, e.g. 3 min) will make things are lot easier.

I'm happy (for once)

[Lothandar]

iirc moose gives you hp? gives you 50% at lvl 50, while zerk/bm improves damage, so thats like having 2x IP prob why its on long timer

So I can live an additional hit vs a vendo+bs zerker.


It is absolutely not on par with the other class abilities. For one, vendo is simply stupid to be usable nearly every fight.

What are you on about 2x ip anyway? I don't even have a single ip because ip for me is still 100%. Otherwise it's not ip, it's a ripoff (for 20 minute reuse). Aka moose. A hero can't afford ip anyhow, lots of better things to buy.

The problem isn't about what moose does, it's about the horribly long timer and the comparison of other tank special abilities. For example warriors get a ra that lasts longer than moose and is usable more often. I don't care they got no special ability, they don't need one, I never suffered anything at all with my warrior because I had no uber 50% hp increase. Having the best armor type in the game made me a major pain to kill even prenf. Now when I am playing a hero I see how seriously crap scale armor is. Moose simply can't ever make up for that with a 20 min reuse timer when each zerker train just vendos and banespikes on sight.

Wicked that warriors (in compensation, because that is what mythic thought, since warriors had no special ability) get a ra that makes them invulnerable while heros get a useless ra. I guess heroes aren't on the worst side of the track since what armsmen get is better to be not mentioned or we'll cry.