lets discuss this further in a more private waySharkith wrote:yes - I am confused. :satyn1:
For ppl not using Irc. (start doing so!)
dident think there should be so much whine. but i guess as there servers are down ppl dont have much to do. if you all had used irc we chould have had this conversation there tho 
Ultraviolence.
refers to acts of extreme violence
seemingly performed at random,
or with no clear justification
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Member of Marsh Horde.
refers to acts of extreme violence
seemingly performed at random,
or with no clear justification
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Member of Marsh Horde.
ok so have we any pros and cons about IRC or do I have to go through all this and try to figure out what they are?
Something like:
Pros
1) great way to keep in touch with friends who have left the game
2) good for organising groups with people who are not online just yet
3) a good place to grow and epeen if you are into that kind of thing
any more?
Cons
1) fair proportion of ignorant assholes
2) you don't get the dude popping out of the box telling you how to use it and there are risks i.e. do not accept files through it.
3) some serious in game hostility from people you practically do not know
4) the fish
it that about it?
Sharkith
Something like:
Pros
1) great way to keep in touch with friends who have left the game
2) good for organising groups with people who are not online just yet
3) a good place to grow and epeen if you are into that kind of thing
any more?
Cons
1) fair proportion of ignorant assholes
2) you don't get the dude popping out of the box telling you how to use it and there are risks i.e. do not accept files through it.
3) some serious in game hostility from people you practically do not know
4) the fish
it that about it?
Sharkith
Na Fianna Dragun
Karak-Eight Peaks, Kiera ze Witch Hunter
Eve online - Kaminjosvig.
Karak-Eight Peaks, Kiera ze Witch Hunter
Eve online - Kaminjosvig.
ohhh that was very clever.... I have it but I am too scared to use it. There are bad Albs and Mids on there.judas wrote:dident think there should be so much whine. but i guess as there servers are down ppl dont have much to do. if you all had used irc we chould have had this conversation there tho
Na Fianna Dragun
Karak-Eight Peaks, Kiera ze Witch Hunter
Eve online - Kaminjosvig.
Karak-Eight Peaks, Kiera ze Witch Hunter
Eve online - Kaminjosvig.
IRC is a service.
WWW is a service.
Saying you wont surf the web ever again, because you don't like Freddyshouse is dumb. And obviously same goes for IRC.
WWW is a service.
Saying you wont surf the web ever again, because you don't like Freddyshouse is dumb. And obviously same goes for IRC.
Hep, treated MMORPG addict, on the way to master his uni
Morana, one of a few Rangers, that did not Zerg. Retired for good.
Morana, one of a few Rangers, that did not Zerg. Retired for good.
There seems to be a lot of (in my opinion) unwarranted hate toward the chat medium itself. Hate the users, not the tool. Sure IRC can be full of idiots who get hard by banning other users, but if you find yourself in a room of retards, simply do what you would do in real life... leave.
There are plenty of channels, each run by different people, having a different atmosphere, and completely different purpose. If you end up in the 8vs8 RvR channel and fight someone 24vs8, you are obviously going to get aggro. If you want to play like that then sure, but then why are you in an 8vs8 channel? This seems to be the root of most peoples complaints, I suspect mainly because they don't know the purpose of the channels they are in.
I'll list a few below, and then it's for people to make up their own minds which ones they want to be in.
#E&E.
Owner: ?
Usual Operators: Pup (ethealer), Draakje(?), Jerelyn (?), Thorarin (?), + ?
Description: E&E channel to give them an IRC presence. Has been helpful the times I've used it, but I'm not a regular there. Remember to state your problem if someone can help they will. Don't spam it, and don't PM it to every operator. Is more information in the sticky thread on it.
Expect To Not Fit In If: If you constantly say your problem over and over, you are asking for it. They either read it the first time and can't help, ignored you, or simply are not there to read it.
#prydwen.rvr.
Owner: Rami.
Usual Operators: Alobana (Our tree), Bigchief (PEs Pally/Inf), Doed (Becksvart SM), Mani (SB + ?), Rami (Duh), Me (Hi!), Stupeh (Velan BM), Thadi (Hib etc).
Description: 8vs8 RvR Channel. Discussions (& whine) related to FG RvR. Useful for locating regular groups, seeing which enemy groups are out. Rarely, but sometimes for grabbing group members. Channel is less aggressive now Rami has *finally* removed Madition's (Valgair) op status.
Expect To Not Fit In If: If you run more than 1FG together in RvR, run as a "zerg", add on a fight in progress. Each player to their own means, but thats not what the channel is about.
#prydwen.stealthers.
Owner: Aoln.
Usual Operators: Aoln (Alb scout), Bigchief (PEs Pally/Inf), Carp (Alb Minstrel), ev0 (Snorning Mid Hunter), Mani (SB + ?)
Description: General stealther channel, although often frequented by non-stealthers. Used for stealther discussion, random discussion, and of course, whine.
Expect To Not Fit In If: Hmms. Although the channel isn't always about it, the operators of the channel like to promte 'fair' (in their eyes) stealther fights. If you kill one of them 5vs1 with no hope of them fighting back, you may well get banned.
#daoc.prydwen.
Owner: ?.
Usual Operators: Lots, mainly ex DAoC players, including our long lost Piffany.
Description: This used to be the main channel for DAoC discussion about prydwen. It's now pretty dead and full of ex-players. This would be a good place to look if you want to find an old timer, but pretty rubbish for anything DAoC related now.
Expect To Not Fit In If: No reason. The channel is more of a Op's playground now its not DAoC related. Although the operators are often AFK now, so perhaps less of a playground than it was before heh.
Misc Channels.
Other channels that I CBA to write a long description out for as this is taking a while.
#groove.daoc - Groove from Excal's guild channel, which has kinda merged into a general Excal channel.
#celticfist - Like above for CE, but smaller now.
Guild Channels.
Most guilds have their own smaller channels on irc, normally run by the members of the respective guilds. These are often the places least like a playground, smaller well-knit communities. Some examples:
#ascending.dawn
#daoc.tuatha
#jack.herer
#daoc.maelstrom
#daoc.eclipse
This is by no means a complete list, it's just some channels that I use or have used. Hopefully it will provide a better starting ground for users new to IRC if they know more about the channels they are joining. Perhaps this will help dispell some of the myths about the whole thing being childish. Who knows.
There are plenty of channels, each run by different people, having a different atmosphere, and completely different purpose. If you end up in the 8vs8 RvR channel and fight someone 24vs8, you are obviously going to get aggro. If you want to play like that then sure, but then why are you in an 8vs8 channel? This seems to be the root of most peoples complaints, I suspect mainly because they don't know the purpose of the channels they are in.
I'll list a few below, and then it's for people to make up their own minds which ones they want to be in.
#E&E.
Owner: ?
Usual Operators: Pup (ethealer), Draakje(?), Jerelyn (?), Thorarin (?), + ?
Description: E&E channel to give them an IRC presence. Has been helpful the times I've used it, but I'm not a regular there. Remember to state your problem if someone can help they will. Don't spam it, and don't PM it to every operator. Is more information in the sticky thread on it.
Expect To Not Fit In If: If you constantly say your problem over and over, you are asking for it. They either read it the first time and can't help, ignored you, or simply are not there to read it.
#prydwen.rvr.
Owner: Rami.
Usual Operators: Alobana (Our tree), Bigchief (PEs Pally/Inf), Doed (Becksvart SM), Mani (SB + ?), Rami (Duh), Me (Hi!), Stupeh (Velan BM), Thadi (Hib etc).
Description: 8vs8 RvR Channel. Discussions (& whine) related to FG RvR. Useful for locating regular groups, seeing which enemy groups are out. Rarely, but sometimes for grabbing group members. Channel is less aggressive now Rami has *finally* removed Madition's (Valgair) op status.
Expect To Not Fit In If: If you run more than 1FG together in RvR, run as a "zerg", add on a fight in progress. Each player to their own means, but thats not what the channel is about.
#prydwen.stealthers.
Owner: Aoln.
Usual Operators: Aoln (Alb scout), Bigchief (PEs Pally/Inf), Carp (Alb Minstrel), ev0 (Snorning Mid Hunter), Mani (SB + ?)
Description: General stealther channel, although often frequented by non-stealthers. Used for stealther discussion, random discussion, and of course, whine.
Expect To Not Fit In If: Hmms. Although the channel isn't always about it, the operators of the channel like to promte 'fair' (in their eyes) stealther fights. If you kill one of them 5vs1 with no hope of them fighting back, you may well get banned.
#daoc.prydwen.
Owner: ?.
Usual Operators: Lots, mainly ex DAoC players, including our long lost Piffany.
Description: This used to be the main channel for DAoC discussion about prydwen. It's now pretty dead and full of ex-players. This would be a good place to look if you want to find an old timer, but pretty rubbish for anything DAoC related now.
Expect To Not Fit In If: No reason. The channel is more of a Op's playground now its not DAoC related. Although the operators are often AFK now, so perhaps less of a playground than it was before heh.
Misc Channels.
Other channels that I CBA to write a long description out for as this is taking a while.
#groove.daoc - Groove from Excal's guild channel, which has kinda merged into a general Excal channel.
#celticfist - Like above for CE, but smaller now.
Guild Channels.
Most guilds have their own smaller channels on irc, normally run by the members of the respective guilds. These are often the places least like a playground, smaller well-knit communities. Some examples:
#ascending.dawn
#daoc.tuatha
#jack.herer
#daoc.maelstrom
#daoc.eclipse
This is by no means a complete list, it's just some channels that I use or have used. Hopefully it will provide a better starting ground for users new to IRC if they know more about the channels they are joining. Perhaps this will help dispell some of the myths about the whole thing being childish. Who knows.
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