Those respec stones are a 100% drop and that I know for a fact...on merlin when the dragon dropped only like 4 drops and money we contacted a CRS and soon after the CRS came he gave us the stones and some random drops.
And CRS in the US can do the same then the crs in europe unless the crs in europe are given admin rights wich is bad imo.
As a crs you got rules and you have to follow them, if you dont follow them you loose most likely your job and you probably get a big fine for altering game information wich is copyrighted, so you most likely dont see crs's on the US servers screw arround spawning dragons and such not even on pendragon.(wich everyone can do on the free daoc emulators anyway)
If the europe CRS's dont want to give the respec stones then it's because he just dont want to admit he's wrong and just being stubborn.
There are several facts to proof him wrong anyway (xest picture, experience, patch notes etc)
Dragon Respec stones, Goa's Responce
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Cuchuluhain
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europe has no csrs, just a handful of GMs and E&E
Its the hostile attitude youre slinging at someone who's being honest with you that annoys me.
Goa could readily go back to not giving a shit about the english servers, the way it was, and you know what, that kind of attitude youre slinging at the GM's and E&E's is exactly why
the us servers are NOT the eu ones, not run the same, not hosted the same, the code base is NOT the same.
Theyre now caught in a no win situation and various loudmouths are simply making them regret answering.
Wise up.
Its the hostile attitude youre slinging at someone who's being honest with you that annoys me.
Goa could readily go back to not giving a shit about the english servers, the way it was, and you know what, that kind of attitude youre slinging at the GM's and E&E's is exactly why
the us servers are NOT the eu ones, not run the same, not hosted the same, the code base is NOT the same.
Theyre now caught in a no win situation and various loudmouths are simply making them regret answering.
Wise up.
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nibs
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Cuchuluhain wrote:europe has no csrs, just a handful of GMs and E&E
Its the hostile attitude youre slinging at someone who's being honest with you that annoys me.
Goa could readily go back to not giving a shit about the english servers, the way it was, and you know what, that kind of attitude youre slinging at the GM's and E&E's is exactly why
the us servers are NOT the eu ones, not run the same, not hosted the same, the code base is NOT the same.
Theyre now caught in a no win situation and various loudmouths are simply making them regret answering.
Wise up.
People just don't like it when they dont get what it says on the box meight!
False Advertising... get ur law books out ]https://faq.camelot-europe.com/cgi-bin/ ... MQ**&p_li=[/url]
Don't worry you don't have to read far down the page (tis at the top) and you'll see what GOA have to say about the dragon rules
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WHO THE HELL in their right mind would make a drop 99.99% ????
WHY just explain WHY would anyone want to do this... lol tbh and I dont believe it.
Here´s something to think about...
1. The GM is allways right
2. If the GM by any way should be wrong, rule #1 applies.
I dont know what to think it´s very confusing, I dont see any reason for Req. to lie about this, as there´s no gain for him and it cant be to hard to get 25 stones and hand out.
But I cant get my head around how someone could EVER put a drop rate to like 99.99% ! The fact is that over 30 hib deaded dragons have dropped them ALLWAYS. And now, ONCE, they didnt....
WHY just explain WHY would anyone want to do this... lol tbh and I dont believe it.
Here´s something to think about...
1. The GM is allways right
2. If the GM by any way should be wrong, rule #1 applies.
I dont know what to think it´s very confusing, I dont see any reason for Req. to lie about this, as there´s no gain for him and it cant be to hard to get 25 stones and hand out.
But I cant get my head around how someone could EVER put a drop rate to like 99.99% ! The fact is that over 30 hib deaded dragons have dropped them ALLWAYS. And now, ONCE, they didnt....
Bah. Lv50s.
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With respect what do you expect when a part of the game does not deliver what it is supposed to deliver? Doesn't make it right but it makes it highly probable that people will get upset.Cuchuluhain wrote:europe has no csrs, just a handful of GMs and E&E
Its the hostile attitude youre slinging at someone who's being honest with you that annoys me.
Goa could readily go back to not giving a shit about the english servers, the way it was, and you know what, that kind of attitude youre slinging at the GM's and E&E's is exactly why
the us servers are NOT the eu ones, not run the same, not hosted the same, the code base is NOT the same.
Theyre now caught in a no win situation and various loudmouths are simply making them regret answering.
Wise up.
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It did deliver tbh Sharkith. Requiel has absolutely no reason to lie. What would he gain from lieing? Unless you have people who can actually check the table i guess he wont be believed. And dont get me started on the US CSR's. Now all of the sudden there sayings are holy but there are also numerous theads about how they spout bullshit.Sharkith wrote:With respect what do you expect when a part of the game does not deliver what it is supposed to deliver?
I full heartedly agree that it sucks you didnt get the stones. Tough luck
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Takitothemacs
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in the game of percentages and statistics... we have percentages ranging from 0-100.
So if you killed the dragon 100 times and the drop rate was 95% you would expect to see a drop of 95 x 25 RA Plus 95 x 25 Skill stones coupled with 5 x 0 drops of both. (not true as the calculation is done per kill and not on a cumilitive statistic based on the number of kills performed to the number of stone drops. i.e. IF the dragon had been killed 95 times and dropped every time the following 5 kills would be a 100% chance of nothing dropping in the cumilative model. Rather each time there is a 95% chance on every kill)
Now with that in mind, nobody on these or any other boards knows exactly what the drop rate is except the developers and the GMs. US CSRs do not have the same access as these people.
While the wording of the patch notes quoted leads to believe that it is a 100% drop the wording comes from Mythic (if you check back to the US archives you will see it is the same) so tearing Requiel a new arse hole is neither helpful or fair. Requiel has done his job and has given an open and honest reply to the question asked. Give the guy a break, if he knows for certain that the drop rate is NOT 100% then accept it.. if he knows that it is a high probability of it droping then fine...
If you were doing the Oriens belt encounter and the mob did not drop the belt would you appeal to rightnow? You are perfectly within your rights to... and if told that it was a high possibility of it dropping but wasn't guaranteed... would you bitch and moan about it here until he gave in and gave you the arti? Apply that same principle to this situation... if the drop rate is not 100% (which personally I believe as I have been told by someone who has seen information that I have not) and he gives in and gives over the 25 stones it sets precident for him to from now on have a stack of artis, stones and everything else ready to give out to anyone who complains.
Think back to the times when we as a community bitched and moaned about the lack of available GMs and contact with GOA... now we have a team of GMs looking after the english language servers and when they give an honest answer to a question posed, some of the people here (possibly some of the most vocal) bitch moan and whine at the GMs, openly calling them liars, I wouldnt be surprised if they simply tell you to FO! They are paid to look after the game, the servers and the community up to a point... they are not paid to take the kind of shit that you are throwing at them at the minute... you should be ashamed of yourselves.
Do onto others as you would have done onto you.
Grow up.
So if you killed the dragon 100 times and the drop rate was 95% you would expect to see a drop of 95 x 25 RA Plus 95 x 25 Skill stones coupled with 5 x 0 drops of both. (not true as the calculation is done per kill and not on a cumilitive statistic based on the number of kills performed to the number of stone drops. i.e. IF the dragon had been killed 95 times and dropped every time the following 5 kills would be a 100% chance of nothing dropping in the cumilative model. Rather each time there is a 95% chance on every kill)
Now with that in mind, nobody on these or any other boards knows exactly what the drop rate is except the developers and the GMs. US CSRs do not have the same access as these people.
While the wording of the patch notes quoted leads to believe that it is a 100% drop the wording comes from Mythic (if you check back to the US archives you will see it is the same) so tearing Requiel a new arse hole is neither helpful or fair. Requiel has done his job and has given an open and honest reply to the question asked. Give the guy a break, if he knows for certain that the drop rate is NOT 100% then accept it.. if he knows that it is a high probability of it droping then fine...
If you were doing the Oriens belt encounter and the mob did not drop the belt would you appeal to rightnow? You are perfectly within your rights to... and if told that it was a high possibility of it dropping but wasn't guaranteed... would you bitch and moan about it here until he gave in and gave you the arti? Apply that same principle to this situation... if the drop rate is not 100% (which personally I believe as I have been told by someone who has seen information that I have not) and he gives in and gives over the 25 stones it sets precident for him to from now on have a stack of artis, stones and everything else ready to give out to anyone who complains.
Think back to the times when we as a community bitched and moaned about the lack of available GMs and contact with GOA... now we have a team of GMs looking after the english language servers and when they give an honest answer to a question posed, some of the people here (possibly some of the most vocal) bitch moan and whine at the GMs, openly calling them liars, I wouldnt be surprised if they simply tell you to FO! They are paid to look after the game, the servers and the community up to a point... they are not paid to take the kind of shit that you are throwing at them at the minute... you should be ashamed of yourselves.
Do onto others as you would have done onto you.
Grow up.
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If I was a GM I would lie through my teeth all the time and screw ppl over!Quinlan wrote:It did deliver tbh Sharkith. Requiel has absolutely no reason to lie. What would he gain from lieing? Unless you have people who can actually check the table i guess he wont be believed. And dont get me started on the US CSR's. Now all of the sudden there sayings are holy but there are also numerous theads about how they spout bullshit.
I full heartedly agree that it sucks you didnt get the stones. Tough luck
and its the bloody ra respec stones... not like they are hard to get anyway
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