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Luz · Post by **Luz** » Tue May 10, 2005 2:04 pm

Dont a strict no-add policy really suggest that 1fg really "camps" a RvR zone?
or atleast an area... which seems a bit weird

Also if adding is about FUN you know people say : I want FUN 8v8 action no adds... the times you get added you survive (mostly?) then you can keep looking for a 8v8 fight.

If you never get added(help) you are likely to get zerged by enemy adds.. then you have to release.. rebuff, port wait RS, run to try and find 8v8 again..

Since non of the groups that DONT want adds can agree on another zone (either on a Forum or something) then it´s not very likely to get "fair" fights in a zone with ALL THREE realms EVERY group in it.

pikeh · Post by **pikeh** » Tue May 10, 2005 5:36 pm

people are generally more pissed off when people add on fights that they player could have won easily in the first place. adding can be very handy if your getting beaten or whatever, but generally it is used just to whore RP's.

Ankh Morpork · Post by **Ankh Morpork** » Tue May 10, 2005 5:48 pm

pikeh wrote:people are generally more pissed off when people add on fights that they player could have won easily in the first place. adding can be very handy if your getting beaten or whatever, but generally it is used just to whore RP's.

Personally I dont care if people add to get rp..as long as we all have fun (and RP isnt everything)

/Ankh

Cryn · Post by **Cryn** » Tue May 10, 2005 9:14 pm

Briannon wrote:I can see your point here, but I guess my issue is how do you find out which is which? A non-add or a please help fight?

We're in complete agreement. That's exactly what I meant by it being arguably bad form - one person would say it's bad form, another would say thanks for the help.

Personally, I will target any enemy I see, regardless of whether anyone is already fighting them. There are several reasons for this.

- They might need my help against the enemy

- Being hesitant at the start of a battle while you work out whether the enemies are engaged already can lose me the fight. With many fights being about someone getting off a decent early CC or interrupt, small hesitations can hurt.

- I feel that we share the frontier. To me that means we share the enemies. If someone wants to opt out of that sharing relationship, that's their perogative, but they can't opt me out or expect me to play by conventions they impose.

- RPs are not important enough to me to get annoyed when I score 1000 from a battle rather than 2000

Having said that, people rarely moan at you when you add on their fights. A few people will, but most would just moan to their friends or group and you'd never hear it.

Luon · Post by **Luon** » Wed May 11, 2005 6:57 am

rp is everything otherwise ppl wouldnt add

Ankh Morpork · Post by **Ankh Morpork** » Wed May 11, 2005 8:16 am

Luon wrote:rp is everything otherwise ppl wouldnt add

Ofcourse RP is important...but does it really matter if you get 100 or 1000 rp?

Imo killing everything that moves is what counts

(I wish they would add blood and limps getting cut off to daoc...and the ability to store body parts in your freezer ]Edit:[/B] Point is, how fun do you make the game for the ones not running in fg's if you start to tell them to get lost when every they try to join in the fun? Many times the battle is over before you can decided what side is winning..OR the other side adds to it

/Ankh

pikeh · Post by **pikeh** » Wed May 11, 2005 8:22 am

Ankh Morpork wrote:Ofcourse RP is important...but does it really matter if you get 100 or 1000 rp?

Imo killing everything that moves is what counts (I wish they would add blood and limps getting cut off to daoc...and the ability to store body parts in your freezer ]Edit:[/B] Point is, how fun do you make the game for the ones not running in fg's if you start to tell them to get lost when every they try to join in the fun? Many times the battle is over before you can decided what side is winning..OR the other side adds to it

/Ankh

im not sure everyone agrees with your point of view... does it really matter if you get 100 or 1000 rps? yes. simple as that. if you were in a fight you were easily going to win, and some jerk added without asking if you needed help or whatever, you get less than half the rp's you would have got if he has stayed out. Okay, so maybe you are thankful if they add when you were going to lose, and in that case, 100 arpes are better than nothing, but only in that situation. call me greedy or whatever, i dont want to take 10x longer getting an rr due to the fact someone added every fight and i only got 100 or so rp's.

Ankh Morpork · Post by **Ankh Morpork** » Wed May 11, 2005 8:26 am

So you think its more fair for people to run around for hours having to avoid battles only cos people dont want adds? You right, its better if 1 guy gets 1000rp than 5 guys get 100...pretty selfish imo

It takes more than 10 times longer for people to get a RR if they need to stop everytime they see a battle to see if they are allowed to join in or not. Also, with the current situation in Hadrians you really cant say if its a fair fight or not since they ere loads of enemies running around all over the place that might add every sec. Imo its better to take the enemy out fast than to wait those extra seconds that might turn into your own death as the longer you wait the bigger chance there is to get enemy GG's to join in.

/Ankh

pikeh · Post by **pikeh** » Wed May 11, 2005 8:30 am

Ankh Morpork wrote:So you think its more fair for people to run around for hours having to avoid battles only cos people dont want adds? You right, its better if 1 guy gets 1000rp than 5 guys get 100...pretty selfish imo

It takes more than 10 times longer for people to get a RR if they need to stop everytime they see a battle to see if they are allowed to join in or not. Also, with the current situation in Hadrians you really cant say if its a fair fight or not since they ere loads of enemies running around all over the place that might add every sec. Imo its better to take the enemy out fast than to wait those extra seconds that might turn into your own death as the longer you wait the bigger chance there is to get enemy GG's to join in.

/Ankh

so you mean to say, every time you see an alb or mid, there are always hibs attacking him? not in my experience lol, there are enough to go around by a long way. :noangel:

pikeh · Post by **pikeh** » Wed May 11, 2005 8:31 am

Ankh Morpork wrote:So you think its more fair for people to run around for hours having to avoid battles only cos people dont want adds? You right, its better if 1 guy gets 1000rp than 5 guys get 100...pretty selfish imo

It takes more than 10 times longer for people to get a RR if they need to stop everytime they see a battle to see if they are allowed to join in or not. Also, with the current situation in Hadrians you really cant say if its a fair fight or not since they ere loads of enemies running around all over the place that might add every sec. Imo its better to take the enemy out fast than to wait those extra seconds that might turn into your own death as the longer you wait the bigger chance there is to get enemy GG's to join in.

/Ankh

like i said, its fair if you dont add on a fight someone is going to win easily.