Briannon wrote:The housing zones are not shared or linked in the same way as the frontiers and capitals are. They exist separately on each server because Mythic couldn't get round the problem that the same plot on each server is owned by three different accounts. I think, unlike the housing zones on Gaheris, you are restricted to only buying a house in the housing zone of your home server, although using the channelers you can travel to each housing zone to explore the markets. The teleporters in the house sell scrolls to Ligen, Domnann, Atlantis, Borderkeeps and TNN so you can't port direct from the Gawaine zone to the Bors and Palomides ones.
Briannon wrote: All it is going to take is for one or two optimised hib/excal ggs or bgs to decide it wants to farm both GoV or Cloudsong (for example) sites and the actual chances of finding the encounter popped or uncamped will go down.
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Look at the figures, in alb and mid the populations are 50 - 60% higher and on hib it is 72% higher. The excal hib population could camp the arti spots on both servers and easily block them off from pryd groups.
Guess what: An optimised Hib/Pryd GGs or BGs can do EXACTLY the same. Also contrary to what you are thinking there's no 'Hib/Pryd' or 'Hib/Exc'-sides. We both fight for Hibernia]
On the US servers they clustered servers of similar populations. In our case this is a takeover not a cluster.[/QUOTE]
You see this entirely wrong. We're gonna work together with Hib/Excal to fight the Albs and Mids (from Pryd and Excal); we aint gonna fight against Hib/Excal people. They are basically new players inside our own realm; or whatever way you wanna see it. They are *NOT* the enemies. Unless you see at the moment Eclipse, Tuatha Dé Danann, Severance, Golden Age etc also as your 'enemy' because they camped Danos once or twice in the past...
Puppet I like some of these points and as far as I can see RvR is not the problem - in fact I too think we will do well. So good for you if you have two belts!
I am worried about getting new characters ToA'ed - it is bad enough as it is without making things worse. Maybe you have finished all of your ToAing and maybe many others have - then it won't affect those people. It will most likely hit people like me very hard - I have a very busy RL situation and I just cannot plan to play and grind in time like many others here so ToA has presented me with a virtually insurmountable problem.
Now I potentially face a harder situation I am fairly sure I might have to consider playing something else. It is the ToA influence on the endgame that is causing the most worry here. Not the RvR nor the crafting situation. I feel people should think about this very carefully. Sure they are entitled to vote for what they want and in the case of a dictatorship of the majority the only answer for the one who does not like it is to leave. Now you can't blame me if I have to leave and I feel somewhat bitter at that majority?
I do not farm artis. I hate the thought of spending more time in ToA than I have to. I want to RvR with a Druid or a Bard unfortunately I picked a Nightshade as my first character and I stuck at it until rr4+. Artis here have been a nightmare to get and now it is looking pretty bleak for the druid and the future of my RvR espcially if we end up with people competing for the part of the game that makes RvR most viable.
Can anyone offer anything positive about this specific aspect?
I am listening.
As for those syaing the server will collapse if it is not done. You have no data worth taking about on this point so it is a big non-starter for an argument please lets not cloud the debate with scaremongering. I say this because people might equally be coming back because WoW is not as good in PvP at the moment. So I find that argument thoroughly unconvincing.
I have to say it is actually very depressing. I am beginning to feel that anything I do from now to clustering could be a serious waste of my time. If I find my gaming enviornment suddenly becomes nasty and ignorant then I am afraid I will wish you all the best with your clustered server. I do not want to play a game where I have to confront numpteys on a regular basis - I have enough trouble with that in RL.
what about our underpopulated problem? yes we will get more hibs, but think about the alb zerg!! I see 1000 albs inc! :mezz:
this could get very very laggy
DarkSnaker wrote:what about our underpopulated problem? yes we will get more hibs, but think about the alb zerg!! I see 1000 albs inc! :mezz:
this could get very very laggy
ATM its pretty balanced on prydwen, no matter where people pull these numbers from..every time I check who its roughly the same amount on each side. Excalibur will probably unbalance that, and the d000000m sayers are over-hyping things (like they always are)
I am not leaving until it either happens and I see for myself if these concerns were to be the case. I would like to hear more about the effects of joined ToA zones on other servers. If we could have some people who know what has happened in other communities then I would be either more or less worried.
This is my only worry. I just created eight different characters on Mid excal so I will have those to play for the future. The issue of choice is not as bad for me as it is for you. Although I do understand totally why you are so angry.
If someone could come and share their experiences here I would be delighted to have a much clearer discussion of the likely effects - does anyone know people in the US or US community boards where I could go and ask for some advice?
Rejecta wrote:ATM its pretty balanced on prydwen, no matter where people pull these numbers from..every time I check who its roughly the same amount on each side. Excalibur will probably unbalance that, and the d000000m sayers are over-hyping things (like they always are)
Gamah I do hope you are referring to the RvR effects if so I agree there should be no worries on that front. If you were referring to the ToA effects then please could you explain why you feel concerns of people like me are over hyped. For once all three realms have something they need to debate openly and clearly and try to keep it clear.
This has the potential to affect Prydwen people more than Excaliber so we all need to fink a bit.
I was refering to none of the above, I was talking about the people claiming prydwen would insta die if no clustering was to happen. They claim numbers would drop by like 500/600, whats the bet that they have not spoken to 600 players and asked if they would leave.
yes that is what I was thinking - sorry I got confused. I am going to have alook at the US boards on this and try to bring some more info to the discussion.
