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Ovi wrote:I always wondered why it was called "Latin"-America, since it was discovered well after the demise of the Roman empire?

In the United States, the phrase Latino (and sometimes the feminine form Latina) refers to a person of Latin American, especially Hispanic heritage.[1] Its use in English derives from the Spanish latinoamericano (compare to Portuguese latino-americano), meaning Latin American.

they dont mean latin as in the old style latin :)
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rofl nice one Crom :D how about honour and shame?
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Sharkith wrote:rofl nice one Crom :D how about honour and shame?

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It greatly offends me that there's more links to WoW than there is free porn.
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<ankh> wrote:Latin? You mean spanish, right?

I personally don't know anyone who speak Latin as their main language (or even second). As far as I know its only the Vatikan who has it as their main language.

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Well Latin lingo's = Portugese, Spanish, Italian, French. Lingo's share a common bond and some are related to eachother. English, Dutch, German for example fall under the Indo - Europeen family. For example: The word padre in latin evolved into]Lastly, it is important to consider not only the population (number) of language speakers, but also the geographic distribution of these languages. Some languages have relatively large populations of native speakers but are used almost exclusively in a few countries. On the other hand, other languages have relatively small populations of native speakers but are used in many different countries as an official or national language.

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So it's a bit fage, its just the way you wanne count it :O. If you count portugese and spanish as a whole (i know, not the same, but very close) and count how large the latin community is in the US and in the rest of the America's, you could say it is the most common used language atm.
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I was most surprised. I though free porn was gonna be top. At least we may get more visitors here now ive mentioned free porn.
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heheh
this thread gets funny :D
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[quote="Tuthmes"]Well Latin lingo's = Portugese, Spanish, Italian, French. Lingo's share a common bond and some are related to eachother. English, Dutch, German for example fall under the Indo - Europeen family. For example: The word padre in latin evolved into]

I know, but when you say Latin - it usually means Latin as the Vatikan language.

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Tuthmes wrote:Well Latin lingo's = Portugese, Spanish, Italian, French. Lingo's share a common bond and some are related to eachother. English, Dutch, German for example fall under the Indo - Europeen family.
All those languages you listed are from the Indo - European family and they all use the Latin script (character set). Russian is an example of a language from the Indo - European family also except it uses Cyrilic as it's character set. There's not really a seperation between Spanish and English in terms of character set and language family.
Tuthmes wrote:So it's a bit fage, its just the way you wanne count it . If you count portugese and spanish as a whole (i know, not the same, but very close) and count how large the latin community is in the US and in the rest of the America's, you could say it is the most common used language atm.
Even if you included those it still wouldn't beat Mandarin. Also, if you do that you also have to count all the people in other countries who can speak English which would include a noticeable chunk of people from China and India which again would dwarf Spanish. As mentioned previously the recent stats all seem to show Spanish in decline.

Found this rather interesting link:
http://www.internetworldstats.com/stats7.htm

The right hand column is the most interesting, it's a 2006 figure of the estimated number of people that speak the language regardless of boundaries. The body text of this link is pretty interesting too:

http://anthro.palomar.edu/language/language_1.htm

To sum up from all the links I've come across today it seems Spanish dropped from 2nd place as the most spoken language somewhere around 97, since then English has taken a much more prominent 2nd place and Hindi/Urdu has pushed it's way up and pushed Spanish into 4th during that time to the point where it's fighting English for 2nd place in the stats for primary language speakers. In terms of the amount of people who speak languages as both their first and second language, Chinese still comes first however English also seems to be a clear second and Hindi/Urdu in 3rd. English as a language seems to excel when we account for all speakers, not just speakers of it as a primary language because of reasons cited early - that it really is an important international language, whereas Spanish/Hindi/Urdu/Chinese have a less important place in international business and politics. This doesn't effect Chinese's 1st place because of the sheer number of speakers - when you account for only primary languages Chinese has about 1.1 billion and English somewhere around 340 - 500 million, when you take into account secondary, tertiary etc. languages Chinese stays at 1.1 billion yet English jumps to anything from 500 million to 1.1 billion depending on which stats you look at. Hindi/Urdu/Spanish follow the same trend as Chinese in that they just don't seem to budge much from the amount of people that speak them as a primary language and people that speak them secondary. It seems therefore that Spanish/Hindi/Urdu speakers probably speak those languages because it is their country's primary language and they're probably more inclined to speak English as a secondary whereas English speaking country's have little inclination to learn Spanish/Hindi/Urdu in return due to English's dominant position in the international arena.
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