Deleted Thread on FH - read here (concerns Synergy)

<ankh> · Post by **<ankh>** » Fri Apr 28, 2006 7:39 am

Hrymf wrote:And how often do you see an extra boxer jump into the arena to help his body because he is in trouble?

Had it been a game of 1vs1 thats specifically said that it was so..I would have understod. But daoc isnt a game with 1vs1 - or else you wouldnt be able to attack while others were fighting.

No offence Hrymf, but it was a lame comparison. I don't add on peoples fight unless they want me to - but I expect others to help when I ask for help.

Your saying "he could be a respected soloer" yes, that might have been so...but unfortunatly not everyone play that style and that should be respected too.

And there you go - the very same second daoc turned into the playermade rules kind of game you lot is talking about - I decided to leave. If I wanted to play 1vs1 I would have started a lan game against my brother...if I wanted a 1fg vs 1fg I could have joined a fps clan and fight other clans...but when I spend hours and loads of money on a mmorpg - i expect it to be a game with thousands of people fighting as one and not one big virtual arena where you spend most of your time watching others fight each other knowing that you arent allowed to join in the fun unless you find your own enemy. Spending hours of sneaking around to find a solo enemy and then try to be fast enough to attack him before some stealther or other guy attack him first and "claim" the kill isnt exactly what I concider to be fun.
I do respect that everyone have their way of playing - unfortunatly the ones making up the "rules" seem unable to respect the ones who don't wanna play the game by their "rules".
I just want to point out that I didnt use to add other than by mistake.

Oh and sometimes you get dragged into the battle against your own will.

/Ankh

<ankh> · Post by **<ankh>** » Fri Apr 28, 2006 7:42 am

Hrymf wrote:/edit: read my first post again and try understand it. Respect, honor and fairplay is about fair fights between enemies, it have nothing to do with "helping" or the like.. As i said before, 1v1 is fair, 2v2 is fair etc etc etc..

TRY?? I do understand what you mean so please dont try to patronize me.

edit: If that comment was aimed at me that is

/Ankh

<ankh> · Post by **<ankh>** » Fri Apr 28, 2006 7:49 am

I better add one more thing tbh, dont get all worked up and upset by what I say as you wont find me in daoc anyway

Just shared my thoughts and experience of it.

/Ankh

Hrymf · Post by **Hrymf** » Fri Apr 28, 2006 8:10 am

Well ankh, again you are wrong... Noone force you to do anything, but some of us try to play it our way and we are seriously trying to find a way so we all can play each our own way.. And by that i mean we are trying to use agramon to our form of playstyle as much possible, noone else but the fgs use agramon really... So when some group decide to head out and ruin the fun for maybe 10 fgs which is 80 other players who play by same rules, then it sure seem like they are doing it on purpose to grief us. Once again, we dont force anyone to do anything but we are simple trying to find a kompromis, and the only responce we get is "Leet players, irc whores and the like cant make rules and we just play the game the way its supposed to to be played" Which obviously is a hard judgement considering there should be room for us all, and just because you can scam, rip off people and insult them in a game, dont mean its alright??

The whole point is that there is fair few different forms of playstyle inside daoc, and we all just would like to be able to play our way, so it should be in everyones interest to find a midway where we all can meet, right?

And for now our suggestion have been letting us use agramon for our fg playing.

<ankh> · Post by **<ankh>** » Fri Apr 28, 2006 8:11 am

I wasnt talking about Agramon at all.

/Ankh

Hrymf · Post by **Hrymf** » Fri Apr 28, 2006 8:13 am

<ankh> wrote:I wasnt talking about Agramon at all.

/Ankh

We are talking about playstyle here, and what i am saying is that it would be really nice if we could for example keep agramon for the fg vs fg action, and outside there i guess people can do what they like (though that also involves not helping fellow realm friends if they dont want to).

Elrandhir · Post by **Elrandhir** » Fri Apr 28, 2006 8:18 am

<ankh> wrote: No offence Hrymf, but it was a lame comparison. I don't add on peoples fight unless they want me to - but I expect others to help when I ask for help.
/Ankh

I actually think you should, I will help a hib if I see he do need it and if I know he aint someone that want to have 1 vs 1, because I rather take some sh*t and have helped then just watching someone die, afterwards I will know if he thought it was good or if he dosent want me to help him again.

This depends abit ofcourse, if he added on a ongoing 1 vs 1 and end up getting killed by the enemy neways, then I wont help him.

I play different depending on what char i play though, on hero I never add more or less, but if I play my ranger I more or less add on everything and expect to be added on also =P

Will leave some 1 vs 1 fights, but otherwise I shoot anything I see when playing ranger.

<ankh> · Post by **<ankh>** » Fri Apr 28, 2006 8:21 am

But thats trying to claim a full area just cos you want your own place. Still not fair on the ones who doesnt wanna play that way as Agramon has some pretty damn cool areas for RvR. I used to love the milegates pre-NF.

I think you are the one missing the point - its a game for everyone and not just 1 gametype, but trying to claim a pretty damn big area for your fg vs fg rvr your more or less telling the rest that "This is our area, if you wish to play you have to find your own place!" <- something I hear quite often from kids at the playground where my son usually play.

As long as you can't convince goa/mythic to give you a fg vs fg area to play at you just cant expect people to follow your rules.

/Ankh

Hrymf · Post by **Hrymf** » Fri Apr 28, 2006 8:30 am

<ankh> wrote:But thats trying to claim a full area just cos you want your own place. Still not fair on the ones who doesnt wanna play that way as Agramon has some pretty damn cool areas for RvR. I used to love the milegates pre-NF.

I think you are the one missing the point - its a game for everyone and not just 1 gametype, but trying to claim a pretty damn big area for your fg vs fg rvr your more or less telling the rest that "This is our area, if you wish to play you have to find your own place!" <- something I hear quite often from kids at the playground where my son usually play.

As long as you can't convince goa/mythic to give you a fg vs fg area to play at you just cant expect people to follow your rules.

/Ankh

You are once again wrong. This about agramon is a suggestion and an idea which could make most happy, its meeting at the midway. But let me quote from earlier: "Leet players, irc whores and the like cant make rules and we just play the game the way its supposed to to be played", that is infact what you are telling me right now, i am comming up with an idea and right away you jump to the conclusion im forcing you to something you dont like and then suddenly you dont care for how alot of us like to play, but just the way "you" think it should be. You are very doublesided in this discussion because for some reason you expected someone to help you in a fight? And people arent allowed to play their way either? But you are allowed to complain and you expect people to do what you think is best?

/edit: The silly comment about GoA making fg area is stupid and you know it, again i must remind you that often just because you can do something dont make it right or good, and im pretty sure you dont scam people ingame? ripp them off or even insult them? Just because you can...

<ankh> · Post by **<ankh>** » Fri Apr 28, 2006 8:38 am

Hrymf wrote:You are once again wrong. This about agramon is a suggestion and an idea which could make most happy, its meeting at the midway. But let me quote from earlier: "Leet players, irc whores and the like cant make rules and we just play the game the way its supposed to to be played", that is infact what you are telling me right now, i am comming up with an idea and right away you jump to the conclusion im forcing you to something you dont like and then suddenly you dont care for how alot of like to play, but just the way "you" think it should be. You are very doublesided in this discussion because for some reason you expected someone to help you in a fight? And people arent allowed to play their way either? But you are allowed to complain and you expect people to do what you think is best?

You ASSUME that it could make most people happy mate. Remember, your just talking about the ones playing the way you like and not the rest. I think you assume too much.
Im not double sided at all, far from it - but unlike you i try to see on the game the way it works - instead of implanting playermade rules that arent mentioned in the CoC. Had it been possible to block out people from adding using the game mechanics it would have been a completely different matter.
...but as you know - there are no way of stopping people from adding atm. I suggest you get a name list and send it to Mythic instead where you suggest them to implant a new BG or something instead.

/Ankh