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I think the changes were totally unnessarary, but after they proposed them was actually quite looking forward to things shaking up a bit.

Dunno wtf the point of that poll was tho', cept to give em an excuse to backtrack once they realised how much work they'd set themselves. Their interpretation of a poll which seems broadly in-favour seems odd.
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Sanya wrote:We'll leave the poll up over the weekend to be sure, of course, but in our experience we can extrapolate pretty well from the first day's results. People who liked the plan amounted to 34% of players. People who hated what we were proposing to give to other classes made up 14% of the vote. People who hated what we were going to give their class came to 10% of the total.

In other words, a third of the votes were in favor, but a fourth of the votes were against. It ain't worth ****ing off one out of four people. But as I said, the poll will run the rest of the weekend.

...but what of the 42% of votes not mentioned above? They will be the players who voted either not to answer the poll, those who aren't interested because they play on a Classic server, or those who didn't see a preference they'd like to see. Therefore...

We can assume that those who chose not to answer cannot be bothered either way, whether we had 3rd level MLs or not... so their vote cannot be included in the overall vote.

As for those who only play Classic, well their vote cannot logically count either and therefore should not be included in the overal vote, as it has no overall bearing on the issue of 3rd level ML abilities. It's a bit like allowing Sven to choose which players are going to play on the Brazilian team in the World Cup, when really all he's authorised to do is choose the English team.

As for those who did not see their preference listed, we must assume that really they would be in favour of 3rd level MLs, had the 3rd level ML for their class been a different one than the one proposed, or the choices for other classes than their own were different. So, this vote also cannot be counted, because it's neither for nor againt 3rd level MLs.

So, if the 42% of votes not accounted for by Sanya cannot be included, then really the actual percentages for those votes that do count are completely different. If the 58% of votes that do count, therefore, can be converted to 100% of the votes, the figures would be...

Those who liked the plan 58.62%
Those who disliked what was proposed for other classes 24.14%
Those who hated the proposed 3rd ML for their own class 17.24%

In other words, well over half the players are in favour of the propsed 3rd level ML abilities... it's not a third, like Sanya says!

Edit: Obviously, if we were granted 3rd level ML abilities, it is logical to assume that Mythic would adjust MLs in general, so that things like certain classes being able to cure their own Nearsight would not be possible... i.e. they would have to be "tweeked".

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Can also discount the 10% who don't like changes cos they didn't get whatever OP toy they thought they should have.
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Gandelf wrote: In other words, well over half the players are in favour of the propsed 3rd level ML abilities... it's not a third, like Sanya says!
You know sometimes you really miss the point. She said that there was no point in doing something that was going to annoy 1 in 4 players. This is a business not a democracy. Personally I would not risk annoying 25% of my customer base if I was a business what she says makes good sense.
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Sharkith wrote:You know sometimes you really miss the point. She said that there was no point in doing something that was going to annoy 1 in 4 players. This is a business not a democracy. Personally I would not risk annoying 25% of my customer base if I was a business what she says makes good sense.
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Sharkith wrote:You know sometimes you really miss the point. She said that there was no point in doing something that was going to annoy 1 in 4 players. This is a business not a democracy. Personally I would not risk annoying 25% of my customer base if I was a business what she says makes good sense.

Sanya's got it wrong though. Setting aside the issue of 3rd level ML abilities for one moment... if it is a business, then surely Mythic are in danger of losing the democratic majority of their customer base if they ignore what they want and take into consideration only those customers who are in a minority?

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Gandelf wrote:She's got it wrong though. Setting aside the issue of 3rd level ML abilities for one moment... if it is a business, then surely Mythic are in danger of losing the democratic majority of their customer base if they ignore what they want and take into consideration only those customers who are in a minority?
Im not sure if I agree with you tbh. As these were not implanted yet they would rather not take the chance of loosing customers. Had it been something already in the game I think it would have been a totally different question.

Edit: And remember, not every player voted.

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The other consideration is whether former customers might renew their subscriptions knowing that they could now choose a third way to go with ML abilities.

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Gandelf wrote:The other consideration is whether former customers might renew their subscriptions knowing that they could now choose a third way to go with ML abilities.
But that would just be wild guess...you can't build the game on guesses.

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