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Post by Ankh Morpork »

spook wrote: I always enter a channel on quakenet knowing full and well that this ispotentially a place of sadistic, egocentric and powermongering persons that treat their channel as a their own playtoy.
And just like with forums it's always easier to be bigmouthed when people hide behind their computer. This is actually why I never use irc, and it's not just quakenet but any irc.

Edit: actually, after reading that log I'm not sure why you kicked him. You say it's for your amusement...perhaps thats why ppl add too? :)

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spook wrote: I always enter a channel on quakenet knowing full and well that this ispotentially a place of sadistic, egocentric and powermongering persons that treat their channel as a their own playtoy.
too true
Ankh wrote:Edit: actually, after reading that log I'm not sure why you kicked him. You say it's for your amusement...perhaps thats why ppl add too?


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If i recall right #prydwen.rvr was made recently (after a suggestion from Rami) for groups who have the same idea of not adding on fights. NFD doesnt support that idea for their own reasons. Esspecially when reading the log i vaguely understand why Stupeh kicked him. Crom was indeed not reading what stup wrote.

It is more then possible for a group of 8 people to not add on a fight. But Crom just ignored that statement and said it aint. Well stupeh then kicked him shit happens. IRC is basically what spook said. But can be entertaining and some venting on IRC is good fun. Not to mention private channels (unlike this one) are great for creating groups.

Some people who posted in this thread have been whining on the topic of irc always. 3d party bla bla...lemme guess you dont have MSN running while playing (or a simular tool). IRC is the same kind. Every tool can be abused. Even 'net send' if you feel like it. But 99% of the time it is used as a chatting device.
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Quinlan wrote:If i recall right #prydwen.rvr was made recently (after a suggestion from Rami) for groups who have the same idea of not adding on fights. NFD doesnt support that idea for their own reasons. Esspecially when reading the log i vaguely understand why Stupeh kicked him. Crom was indeed not reading what stup wrote.

It is more then possible for a group of 8 people to not add on a fight. But Crom just ignored that statement and said it aint. Well stupeh then kicked him shit happens. IRC is basically what spook said. But can be entertaining and some venting on IRC is good fun. Not to mention private channels (unlike this one) are great for creating groups.

Some people who posted in this thread have been whining on the topic of irc always. 3d party bla bla...lemme guess you dont have MSN running while playing (or a simular tool). IRC is the same kind. Every tool can be abused. Even 'net send' if you feel like it. But 99% of the time it is used as a chatting device.
well my interpetation of it is, crom seems to b in agreement in theory about fg vs fg but he is saying in practise its never gonna work because of the nature of ppl, take for example the other nite we ran around a group fighting and didnt add but some noob enemy goes and decides to mez half our group, fair game in my book then. And its not that NFD dont support it, its simply the fact that there is no such thing. We play to the games rules and not some leetest ideas on rules, which annoys the hell outta some who do their best to drag us through the mud

only person who brought up the subject of IRC being an abuse was me, i dont think i bought it up before, but again u read what u want into it... as i said people can justify the acceptance and b comfortable with it, i dont
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Jupi wrote:well my interpetation of it is, crom seems to b in agreement in theory about fg vs fg but he is saying in practise its never gonna work because of the nature of ppl, take for example the other nite we ran around a group fighting and didnt add but some noob enemy goes and decides to mez half our group, fair game in my book then.
Exceptions are created by rules. It is very easy to not add. All 1 person has to say is dont add and all will hear/read it. Or the bard just holds back. Ofcourse if they mezz you fair game.
Jupi wrote: And its not that NFD dont support it, its simply the fact that there is no such thing. We play to the games rules and not some leetest ideas on rules, which annoys the hell outta some who do their best to drag us through the mud
You play by your rules..player 2 plays by his rules..player 3 plays by his rules. Everyone plays by their own rules. Play how you like and sometimes you will have whines and sometimes you will write some whines. Comes with the game.

But this thread was about crom being kicked by stupeh from a channel where likeminded people are that perfer to not add. Not a big suprise to me tbh (altho i personally would have just kicked him once and not banned him but Stupeh's choice)
Jupi wrote: only person who brought up the subject of IRC being an abuse was me, i dont think i bought it up before, but again u read what u want into it... as i said people can justify the acceptance and b comfortable with it, i dont
Some other people (mainly 1) in your guild have been advocating this a long time now. Care to enlighten me how IRC is bug abusing? To your comment that radar is a tool to locate groups is true. However radar is against the CoC and IRC is not. So that agrument is mute (actually GOA themselves uses IRC/MSN for communication. Gotta love #E&E). So why do you see IRC as bug abusing Jupi?
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I'd explain 'proper' reasons for why i banned but theres no point me flame baiting, right? ;>
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Quinlan wrote: So why do you see IRC as bug abusing Jupi?
because to me its cross realming, its against CoC for me to log onto two realms on the same server at the same time and give info about what the other is doing etc etc to me IRC is exactly that, yes u can argue its policed, but at the end of the day information is passed about

and yes i am aware of E&E on IRC etc MSN etc, as i keep saying 1 mans meat is anothers poison
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don't log on MSN while daocing mates, it's bug abusing!!
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At the end of the day, he obviously doesn't have the POV of the people that channel was made by, so theres really no point him being there anyway, but who am i to deny another whine thread. :D
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Jupi wrote:because to me its cross realming, its against CoC for me to log onto two realms on the same server at the same time and give info about what the other is doing etc etc to me IRC is exactly that, yes u can argue its policed, but at the end of the day information is passed about

and yes i am aware of E&E on IRC etc MSN etc, as i keep saying 1 mans meat is anothers poison
So what about forums like pryd.net and FH?

Are you crossrealming yourself right now?
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