Camoflage Question

Tasmin · Post by **Tasmin** » Sat May 06, 2006 1:26 pm

Not just you, thats what it was originally designed for.

Tas

Puppet · Post by **Puppet** » Sat May 06, 2006 8:00 pm

Tasmin wrote:Not just you, thats what it was originally designed for.

Tas

No no, it was originally designed to counter-act the RA 'See Hidden' which sounds abit like Detect Hidden, but its something different.

Back in OF, Assassins could purchase 'See Hidden' RA which basically allowed them to see all non-assassin stealthers from cliprange. Archers where helpless against it, and got camoflage, which made 'See Hidden' not work when Camoflage was active.

Later on See Hidden was nerfed to 800 range maximum, and it was fully removed in New Frontiers. Camoflage remained, and got a new role: To counter 'Mastery of Stealth' detection of enemies on you.

The Detect Hidden is a passive skill which allows assassins to see stealthers abit better then non-assassins at all times.

Gahn · Post by **Gahn** » Sun May 07, 2006 12:44 am

Puppet wrote:No no, it was originally designed to counter-act the RA 'See Hidden' which sounds abit like Detect Hidden, but its something different.

Back in OF, Assassins could purchase 'See Hidden' RA which basically allowed them to see all non-assassin stealthers from cliprange. Archers where helpless against it, and got camoflage, which made 'See Hidden' not work when Camoflage was active.

Later on See Hidden was nerfed to 800 range maximum, and it was fully removed in New Frontiers. Camoflage remained, and got a new role: To counter 'Mastery of Stealth' detection of enemies on you.

The Detect Hidden is a passive skill which allows assassins to see stealthers abit better then non-assassins at all times.

Puppet!!!!

kivik · Post by **kivik** » Sun May 07, 2006 12:50 pm

Also got popped by some infil+sorc who just came running straight for me when stealthed. :blank:

Childofkhain · Post by **Childofkhain** » Sun May 07, 2006 10:13 pm

most infils will have silly amounts of stealth with the skill changes. I have 39+ LOTS on my infil now and i see rangers from across a bridge most of the time. (mos4). I think tbh camoflauge needs to be looked at.

Puppet · Post by **Puppet** » Mon May 08, 2006 2:52 pm

Childofkhain wrote:most infils will have silly amounts of stealth with the skill changes. I have 39+ LOTS on my infil now and i see rangers from across a bridge most of the time. (mos4). I think tbh camoflauge needs to be looked at.

The majority of assassins still has 50 modified stealth. Most people seem to agree that getting more stealth (for the benefit of getting 2 buggy new abilities) isnt worth loosing other skills for.

Childofkhain · Post by **Childofkhain** » Mon May 08, 2006 4:43 pm

infil

stupid number of sp's

Puppet · Post by **Puppet** » Tue May 09, 2006 1:39 pm

[quote="Childofkhain"]infil ]

Still, they do not have enough spec-points to get 50 weapon 50 dw 50 cs, 50 modded envenom and 39 stealth (base).

Even infiltrators give up something to obtain those thingies @ 35 and 39 stealth-spec.

Considering they are quite buggy and dont work half the time, alot of players consider them a waste of spec-points they prefer to put into another line. Especially since stealth over 50 doesnt benefit you at all in RvR besides gaining access to the abilities. No better detection or better hidden.