Deleted Thread on FH - read here (concerns Synergy)

Norcott · Post by **Norcott** » Thu Apr 27, 2006 5:35 pm

ok well i see alot of discussion about not wanting to get added on and 1v1 fights be left alone and grp fights been left alone.. but what about the flip side.. what about the people who want to be added on to ensure they actually stay alive in the war zone rather than constantly gettin farmed by some higher RR// wheres the fun in that..
rules and agreements are just fine but.. that also alienates the solo guys who pehaps need help out in the frontier but dont have many friends to grp with what about them.. what about the small random grp thats running about to have some fun getting constantly farmed by some high experienced RR GG whos out everynight.. soon log off cus theve had enough.. fed up with being farmed RvR and fed up with PvE cus thats all theve got.. (subs canceled) simple as..
theres no way you could get guilds to aggree to a In game community RvR COC.. you just couldnt get people to agree to it.. Im a Gm of HDS I go out on my stealther and go out in a random grp with my bainshee.. I could agree to it but doesnt mean im going to stk to it.. whos gunna stop me.. im the gm ..
point making is this game covers a wide a varied field of players and play styles thus a Realm V's Realm V's Realm game. It has to cater for all play styles and learnt to live with the fact that RP guilds will play the way they want to.. solo peeps will play to how they want to and sometimes its the only way to (add) to get anywhere.. also fg will roam and own as they want to..
its just selfish and the people whining about not getting added on are the ones to blame for destroying the realm community out on the field..

Elrandhir · Post by **Elrandhir** » Thu Apr 27, 2006 5:45 pm

Norcott wrote:ok well i see alot of discussion about not wanting to get added on and 1v1 fights be left alone and grp fights been left alone.. but what about the flip side.. what about the people who want to be added on to ensure they actually stay alive in the war zone rather than constantly gettin farmed by some higher RR//

If I see a Hib that I don't know want to have his duel and seem to loose I will help, or ask fast if he needs help.

Sometimes I just help if I don't know and if he though it was bad he can always tell me afterwards, and then I know. Noone is wrong by helping their Realm mates imo, aslong as there is a need to do so, and you aint just doing so to get afew RP's

Because sometimes when I have been in a fight and the alb/mid would have been killed easy and then some mage come running up to get 1 nuke off or something like that, now that's just sad.

Post by **Lairiodd** » Thu Apr 27, 2006 5:51 pm

<ankh> wrote:Nice idea Lairiodd, but no offence - it was a waste of time. That idea would only work if daoc was a game for guilds who followed certain rules and nothing else. But with thousands of individuals playing the game their own way you can't expect many people to follow those rules. Also, I think making up rules like those will make you sound abit too elitish for some players to even wanna bother with it.

Well, the point was that only guilds who agree to the rules are bound by them. If most of the add whine threads are about guilds who would agree to the rules, then it doesn't matter if nobody else agrees to them (much).

I don't think people want other players telling them what they may and may not do. But had GOA implanted a similar rule it would be a whole different matter ofcourse.

Edit: if people have problems following CoC's and dislike what mods make - this will most certainly be something they wont bother with.

Well these rules would be voluntary. People would only be bound by them if the guild they are part of is bound by them.

Norcott · Post by **Norcott** » Thu Apr 27, 2006 5:52 pm

perhaps this is something that should be coded into the game.. like a toggle flag.. that tags up over ur head included in ur name or just above.. like "Assist" or "Dont assist" would need a mythic code though and wots the chances of that happeneing anytime in the next 12 months..

Post by **Lairiodd** » Thu Apr 27, 2006 5:53 pm

Norcott wrote:perhaps this is something that should be coded into the game.. like a toggle flag.. that tags up over ur head included in ur name or just above.. like "Assist" or "Dont assist" would need a mythic code though and wots the chances of that happeneing anytime in the next 12 months..

Maybe add that to the guidelines ... if you don't mind people adding, wear x coloured armour. The problem is what happens if only one of the 2fgs are wearing that colour

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<ankh> · Post by **<ankh>** » Thu Apr 27, 2006 5:55 pm

Lairiodd wrote:Well, the point was that only guilds who agree to the rules are bound by them. If most of the add whine threads are about guilds who would agree to the rules, then it doesn't matter if nobody else agrees to them (much).

But it does matter alot, cos as long as not everyone follows the rules - its pretty much useless..and the very same second somebody gets adds they would have a pretty damn hard time resisting adding on the ones that added on them the next time they see them fight. Im sorry Lairiodd, your system is a good idea but it just wont work in a game with this many players. (atleast thats my opinion). I thought 4 years of playing/whining would be enough proof.

/Ankh

Norcott · Post by **Norcott** » Thu Apr 27, 2006 6:02 pm

Lairiodd wrote:Maybe add that to the guidelines ... if you don't mind people adding, wear x coloured armour. The problem is what happens if only one of the 2fgs are wearing that colour .

Thats right.. but wot about grps or soloers carring 2 sets of a particular piece one of the colour one not.//.. open to exploit striaght away.. ud see grps changing there armour as they were buffing up, you just know it.. then theyd be screenies of that and more auguments and mud slinging so wotever u do, you cant win.. so play as ya will and either ignore the abuse or abuser or just RN it if someones giving u a hard time in game.. or find ya self a nice up front natured e&e to have a word

Post by **Lairiodd** » Thu Apr 27, 2006 6:08 pm

Norcott wrote:Thats right.. but wot about grps or soloers carring 2 sets of a particular piece one of the colour one not.//.. open to exploit striaght away.. ud see grps changing there armour as they were buffing up, you just know it.. then theyd be screenies of that and more auguments and mud slinging so wotever u do, you cant win.. so play as ya will and either ignore the abuse or abuser or just RN it if someones giving u a hard time in game.. or find ya self a nice up front natured e&e to have a word

, well wearing "brown" or whatever wouldn't "entitle" a group to add, it would just mean that others could add on them. The idea is that there would still be adding, but guilds that add would be open season to be added on themselves. It is supposed to be a compromise between a "no adding whatsoever" rule and an "it's a war damnit" rule. It keeps the adding low while at the same time not trying to force other people to stick to the rules of another part of the community.

sargie · Post by **sargie** » Thu Apr 27, 2006 6:11 pm

well im crap at rvr so assist me always sargie or tranny vamp sorted ill say again im rubbish if you see me in fight help always

now thats simple

Grymligast · Post by **Grymligast** » Thu Apr 27, 2006 6:15 pm

Just do what most soloers and fg´s are doing atm.

Leave those known to not add alone and steamroll the others. In the end its more often that the "adders" and "zergers" that go back to their bridge then the FG´s and soloers to change zone.