Applying to NE.

Lenah · Post by **Lenah** » Thu Jun 16, 2005 1:23 pm

Thandruil wrote:This has been said several times now and people still don't seem to understand. The removal of the 3 guilds last sunday wasn't a decission made in 1 day, but more than a month. So all active guilds DID have the chance to reply and tell us they were still active. For some reason they didn't, and for us this meant they were inactive. Which resulted to the removal of the 3 guilds.

We did have a change to report our activity, and we did (link was posted earlier) and Aran was informed of our situation few days before same night when ND was disbaded.

Gitts comment is very valid as he was highest ranking Chosen for long time, and even tho he and Hiroko the GM's formally have "quitted" playing daoc, I have still been responsible of reporting to them what ever has hapenned to DAOC. So they were reported of every move in daily basis. His comment that none of the members in Chosen prior to the disbanding of ND, have been in the guild when this (omg, pre-historic events) has took place. I have been in Chosen myself for 7 months, and I have no idea what events these even are.

This thread really is a Mirage apply to rejoin NE alliance. Currently 3 member guild, only 1 of them ever been in Chosen, me. So taking this issue to even reflect Chosen past, is pointing fingers at me. I think most peeps didn't even understand this point, so its ok.

So. Being thrown away 'cause being inactive : Wrong, alliance representative was aware that guild is not inactive.

Beign disallowed to join back 'cause its just another Chosen with new name : Wrong, only 1 member ever been in Chosen, and I have also been GM of Mirage for 2 years, and all that time been chatting in NE alliance without ANY problems.

Being disallowed to join back becouse too small : Ok, this I can understand as valid reason. Tho I want to questionize your ethics. I dont like saying this so I say it mildly, my presense in alliance might have certain effect of your alliance raiding.

I want to thankyou Alexandrinus and Levelnix, and those few others that have stood by Mirage's side in this. You're true men. *hug*.

End of discussion.
(Close this thread if possible).

Satyn · Post by **Satyn** » Thu Jun 16, 2005 1:28 pm

Lenah wrote:I say it mildly, my presense in alliance might have certain effect of your alliance raiding.

meaning?

Finolin · Post by **Finolin** » Thu Jun 16, 2005 1:32 pm

Gitt wrote:I had been specifically told that this is not, and has never been, the case but I stand corrected.

Thanks Ankh

While Ankh's word is good, you can always just read the rules as posted by Aran here.

Gitt · Post by **Gitt** » Thu Jun 16, 2005 1:36 pm

OK so it was Fallen Spirits that vetod Chosen over the same age old arguement that only myself and Hiroko were present for or remember.

As neither of us are active players or members of this guild any more would the children care to explain their continued persecution of an entire guild (that has never refused them help or assistance) just because of their name?

Ankh Morpork · Post by **Ankh Morpork** » Thu Jun 16, 2005 2:36 pm

No offence mate , but there really is no need to explain anything. This is an NE matter imo.

Lenah wrote:End of discussion.
(Close this thread if possible).

Bourkey · Post by **Bourkey** » Thu Jun 16, 2005 3:04 pm

If lenahs point is that NE alliance is no longer welcome on any of her raids, which is the impression i get from that. Fair enough, there are other leaders in hib and i personally am not bothered at all. But the people that are; are you trying to blackmail them into letting you in?

Gitt · Post by **Gitt** » Thu Jun 16, 2005 3:05 pm

Ankh Morpork wrote:No offence mate , but there really is no need to explain anything. This is an NE matter imo.

If Fallen Spirits choose not to explain their decision that is, ofc, their right.

I simply asked if they would care to do so as I thought the NE alliance members, and Prydwen as a whole (as this is a public forum) might be intrigued to know how and why decisions involving them are being made.

If the members don't feel they need to know then fair enough, I am sure the entire matter will just blow over.

However, I am not the only person questioning matters here it seems...

<edit> and Bourkey, I think what Lenah was saying was that if she is a part of your alliance she is in a better possition to assist and run raids with you.. she has never excluded anyone from her raids to my knowledge and I see no reason to presume she will start now

Ankh Morpork · Post by **Ankh Morpork** » Thu Jun 16, 2005 3:15 pm

Gitt wrote:I simply asked if they would care to do so as I thought the NE alliance members, and Prydwen as a whole (as this is a public forum) might be intrigued to know how and why decisions involving them are being made.

True, but if they wish to know they can talk to their GM's instead. Imo there is no real reason why we have to share alliance matters with everyone on the server. The ones that wish to know more will find it in the NE private section.

/Ankh

Gitt · Post by **Gitt** » Thu Jun 16, 2005 3:21 pm

Ankh Morpork wrote:True, but if they wish to know they can talk to their GM's instead. Imo there is no real reason why we have to share alliance matters with everyone on the server. The ones that wish to know more will find it in the NE private section.

/Ankh

That's very reasuring Ankh, Thankyou

I am confident that if any questions resulting from this thread can be answered in the private section then everyone will be more than satisfied that all decisions have been made in a fair and justified manner

stupeh · Post by **stupeh** » Thu Jun 16, 2005 3:45 pm

Satyn wrote:meaning?

Most likely Lenah's new found attitude of "I lead raids so you must respect me."