More Ram?

Bourkey · Post by **Bourkey** » Sat Jun 11, 2005 7:27 am

Hi guys, ive just come back to daoc after a few months out. And back then i remember daoc lagging quite badly sometimes even when just a few enemies came into range. Well last night i was getting similar sorts of lag spikes, untill i ported from one keep to another and it switched to desktop with the message "not enough visual memory" and then i went ld. Im just asking if i need more ram? or if there might be another problem.

Thanks in advance,

Bourke

pikeh · Post by **pikeh** » Sat Jun 11, 2005 10:02 am

yes get more ram if you get that message. 1gb is kind of a minimum nowadays with catacombs.

/edit not sure what prices are like now, but last time i looked was only like £40 for 512mb.

Bourkey · Post by **Bourkey** » Sat Jun 11, 2005 11:15 am

ok thanks mate, yeah last time i looked was 40-50 quid, lucky thing is i just got a bit of money so can get buy some

Bugzy · Post by **Bugzy** » Sat Jun 11, 2005 7:01 pm

I get the virtual memory crap when i use DAoC, winamp and firefox.

I run on 512mb and i find that setting all settings low and constantly using vidreset helps as does leaving the comp for 2 mins when u zone in to a new place before moving about.

pikeh · Post by **pikeh** » Sat Jun 11, 2005 8:16 pm

Bugzy wrote:I get the virtual memory crap when i use DAoC, winamp and firefox.

I run on 512mb and i find that setting all settings low and constantly using vidreset helps as does leaving the comp for 2 mins when u zone in to a new place before moving about.

you can up the virtual memory minimum in computer settings. should make it work a bit better, but if you have to leave it for 2 mins after zone your better off getting a new gfx card.

Ankh Morpork · Post by **Ankh Morpork** » Sun Jun 12, 2005 9:08 am

pikeh wrote:you can up the virtual memory minimum in computer settings. should make it work a bit better, but if you have to leave it for 2 mins after zone your better off getting a new gfx card.

Could also make sure the swapfile is on another harddrive than daoc and the swapfile works best if its 150-200% bigger than your memory imo.
Removing all extra's in windows are good too (with extras I mean like fancy interface etc etc) and another thing which is good is if you turn off the constant flow of porn you got.

/Ankh

Bourkey · Post by **Bourkey** » Sun Jun 12, 2005 4:29 pm

Well i have a radeon 9600 graphics card which i recently bought so i dont think its a problem with that, a 2.6 ghz amd athlon and 500 k internet soon to be updated to 1mb line. So tbh i think it is my Ram, and even turning off all them little things dont help that much plus id rather be able to play music and alt tab to forums if im waiting for something.

Cromcruaich · Post by **Cromcruaich** » Mon Jun 13, 2005 9:13 am

Yes, virtual memory refers not to RAM but to the swap file (which is your virtual memory!), I personally set it to a fixed size of about 3 times my RAM. 512mb is ample enough to run everything but catacombs which as said needs a gig.

Its strange that its saying not enough virtual memory, normally you get a message saying virtual memory is running low and its increasing the size of the swap file. This leads me to suspect that your hard disk maybe nearly full on your system partition - its worth a check.

I would also do a ctrl-alt-delete when you get the message, click task manager, and order tasks by the memory size, kill those memory hungry tasks that you dont need running, thou i suggest actually knowing what the tasks are before killing them!

Also use msconfig to stop any applets loading that you dont want, and go through your services and set any you dont need to start manually, such as IISAdmin, FTP, SMTP, IPSEC etc (unless you run any of these for a valid reason).

Another thing to check is that your harddisk is working in DMA mode, sometimes windows defaults operation back to PIO, which makes disk operations more processor intensive and can cause major lag in systems that are already having to page memory out to the swap file, I wont go into how to check DMA operation of your harddisk - just look on the internet and there are quite a few good how-to's available.

hope all these bits help to get your system performance satisfactory.

Bourkey · Post by **Bourkey** » Tue Jun 14, 2005 2:00 pm

After reading a section of a XP tweaking file someone made, he said for 512 ram set cache of virtual memory for about 1500 which is what i have done, so will have to see.

Jupi · Post by **Jupi** » Wed Jun 15, 2005 7:59 am

Cromcruaich wrote:Yes, virtual memory refers not to RAM but to the swap file (which is your virtual memory!), I personally set it to a fixed size of about 3 times my RAM. 512mb is ample enough to run everything but catacombs which as said needs a gig.

Its strange that its saying not enough virtual memory, normally you get a message saying virtual memory is running low and its increasing the size of the swap file. This leads me to suspect that your hard disk maybe nearly full on your system partition - its worth a check.

I would also do a ctrl-alt-delete when you get the message, click task manager, and order tasks by the memory size, kill those memory hungry tasks that you dont need running, thou i suggest actually knowing what the tasks are before killing them!

Also use msconfig to stop any applets loading that you dont want, and go through your services and set any you dont need to start manually, such as IISAdmin, FTP, SMTP, IPSEC etc (unless you run any of these for a valid reason).

Another thing to check is that your harddisk is working in DMA mode, sometimes windows defaults operation back to PIO, which makes disk operations more processor intensive and can cause major lag in systems that are already having to page memory out to the swap file, I wont go into how to check DMA operation of your harddisk - just look on the internet and there are quite a few good how-to's available.

hope all these bits help to get your system performance satisfactory.

or just buy a dell