What kind of moderation would YOU like to see on Prydwen.net?

[Guinnessrules]

Contrary to what u may believe, i dont have a vendetta against u, but u are a strongly opinionated person, which makes for good posting ( and yes u do make good thought provoking arguements) but not good for modding.

On the other hand as somebody else has already pointed out:
which i agree with 100%, my original post has bugged Satyn (which to me was a mild criticism), if ya cant handle that.........

Well, u both r peeps with strong opinions at times. Guess thats why u tend to disagree with each other alot.
But wouldn't it be boring without some small fights once in a while?

[Satyn]

mmmm I became a mod cos I know nana. Odd cos i didnt think i really knew nana that well untill i became one. Its only after that that me and her started to talk a bit on msn/daoc. That doesnt change the fact that i already thought of her to be a great lass with a very big heart. Yes I did ask to become a mod after asking a lot of ppl their opinion (no not only from FS). A couple of ppl said to me that I should apply for it, so I asked around before I said nana that I was intrested in the unthankfull job.
She didnt make me mod on her own, that was decided with the rest of the admins and with Xest iirc.

Before i was a mod my opinion wasnt taken any more serious than any other person on these boards. But ever since i am, I feel the eyes on my back to see if I will say something wrong myself. And ppl who used to like me all of a sudden dont anymore. wich brings me back to the fact that nobody is perfect. Everyone has the right to their opinion, mod or no mod. I had one before i becamse a mod and i'm gona stick to it now aswell. If i cant state my opinion anymore then I wont be a mod.

[Satyn]

which i agree with 100%, my original post has bugged Satyn (which to me was a mild criticism), if ya cant handle that.........

bugged me? Ofc not, I just dont agree. Its not cos I dont agree that your post bugged me.

[Tare]

Yes it is an unthankful job to be a mod and yes, people will react more strongly to the opinion of a mod than to any random member of the community. This has been known for a long time (and also just plain common sense), so don't expect any sympathy for using those arguements. I never stated that any of the new mods is doing a bad job.

When I said connections, I wasn't talking about DAoC or MSN, but the way of your posting was in line with what nana approved of and since u were an active (sometimes to the extreme ) member, it's safe to say that you were elected because banana agreed with the way you posted on these forums.

Of course there is the arguement that the entire mod-team agreed to your election, but be honest now, how much feedback could have such an election thread possibly have gotten with 3 mods in total.

I personally would have thought that when there is a need for new mods, there should be an open application, and should be appointed through a public vote.
The way I feel it went with Xest, you, Quin and Taki is..Well, in Dutch it's called "achterkamertjespolitiek", Quin knows what it means Quite hard to explain and I'm not really getting my point across here anyway.

[Cryn]

I think the first option is a bit ambiguous. A strictly formulated CoC could still be light on rules, with just a few things we are not allowed to do.

I voted for light modding, but I could just have easily voted for CoC, if the CoC ruleset was one I could agree with.

In a way, my problem is more with the moderators than the mods. As has been pointed out, they were not necessarily chosen for their modding skills and I think some of that has shown a bit.

As Jupi and some others have said, I think a good mod is not necessarily a heavy or opinionated poster. Someone who maintains a distance and acts in an impartial, impassive manner would be ideal. Someone who is frequently involved in heavy or heated discussions is gonna find themselves conflicted frequently and is likely to attract more accusations of self-interest modding than a less vocal person.

One thing that worries me in particular is that opinions given by mods inevitably carry more weight. If your mod team includes the most vocal posters, you are going to see a lot of threads dominated by their opinions and the rest of the board could easily feel oppressed.

Being a mod is a thankless task, no doubt, but it is also a position of privilege and best suits people who are most able to avoid abusing the privilege.

[Xest]

I don't think people can really comment on mod selection with the latest round of people it wasn't just a case of grabbing close friends - we went through an awful lot of names and I know I voted for some people I dislike or have had problems with in the past because it wasn't about who do we like and dislike - it was about who would make a decent mod, likewise, I voted no to some people I do like, because as much as they maybe good friends I didn't feel they'd make good mod material.

Without listing names of people who were considered and who voted for and against them I assure you there was a lot more to mod selection than "My friend wants to become a mod so make him a mod please" this time around.

[Xest]

I personally would have thought that when there is a need for new mods, there should be an open application, and should be appointed through a public vote.

This is a very bad idea, it means it ends up a question of who has the most friends - not necessarily who'd make a good mod and that's bad for any forum.

One thing that worries me in particular is that opinions given by mods inevitably carry more weight. If your mod team includes the most vocal posters, you are going to see a lot of threads dominated by their opinions and the rest of the board could easily feel oppressed.

Are you sure? I think you'll find people disagree with me as much as they always have, certainly any weight my opinions have hasn't changed since being a mod - that much is obvious from threads over the last few months.

[Cryn]

Are you sure? I think you'll find people disagree with me as much as they always have, certainly any weight my opinions have hasn't changed since being a mod - that much is obvious from threads over the last few months.

People have to disagree with you, Xest. It's genetic.

Actually, I was thinking even when I posted it that for some reason you are the exception to most of what I said. You are opinionated and yet so far I've trusted all the mod decisions you've made.

However, that blip aside, I AM sure that the opinion of a mod is perceived - in general - differently from other user opinions. Not only that, but I believe being a mod makes people perceive their own posts differently, and to cap it off, people who disagree with a mod perceive their posts differently. It queers the whole deal, you might say.

[Xest]

I'd like to beleive people disagree with me as much as ever because they know deep down I wont abuse mod powers to further my side of the argument but I think that's probably just wishful thinking

[Ankh Morpork]

A moderator without an opinion is either incredible boring person or a complete retard imo. Keep the moderators we got, less swearing and personal insults (from members/moderators) and we will all be fine.

Edit: Kind of hard to find a moderator without opinions btw...who would wanna moderate a forum which he has no real interest in?

Edit2: And from the members, less whine!!!! lets make this board enjoyable and fun to read...your not supposed to get upset when you cruise the forum!

/Ankh