What kind of moderation would YOU like to see on Prydwen.net?

[Satyn]

[quote="Cryn"]I agree, grown men bitching at each other is pointless. However, none of the posts I made were empty bitching. I personally was attempting originally to discuss our right to make pricing observations. All comments about Quinlan's moderation I made were only in response to actions he took.

I've never seen a price discussion moved to the spam forum before and actually I've rarely seen (successful) forums where the moderators are so aggressive to other users, making direct and indirect attacks on them.

I think ideal moderators are the ones with no strong opinions, since strong opinions make them conflicted in the role as mods. If I was a mod, you would rarely see me post an opinion, since disassociation is key to impartiality and impartiality is key to fairness. Mind you, the fact I would feel obliged not to give my opinion is exactly why I'd never wanna be a mod ]


copied this from another thread that needs to stay on topic but since i really want to respond i'm answering it here.

I think one of the reasons why we became mods is cos of our opinions and cos ppl knew who we were. And think postcount had something to do with it aswell amongs other things. Oh and also cos i was sucking up to nana all the time

And since when are mods aggressive here?

[Xest]

i agree with him, especially the bold bit, and in this thread we have mods agreeing with mods... u want to run something your way u appoint who wont critique ur ideas & generally agrre with u to the position......... workplace bullies adopt this tactic regularly /ducks.... not that i'm calling anybody a bully but as somebody once said "print and be-damned"

I'll take it you're not including me in your comments here seeing as I disagree about a hell of a lot, and in fact, even disagree in this thread - I agree with Tare, Banana is wrong and that we have locked threads we've been involved in, I wont hide that, although that certainly doesn't mean I think we did anything wrong, whether we were involved or not, the lockings were still totally justified.

[Satyn]

I'd love for everything to be done by the CoC, so i knew exactly what i could, and could not post. Of course, it would be unfair to request a mod/admin to write a CoC with references to every possible circumstance, it just won't happen. Although, if the outcome of this poll pointed towards moderation via the CoC, then imo, there needs to be quite a bit of detail added too it. As Quin said, a CoC won't ever be able to cover all grey areas, but for me there are currently too many, several which could be fixed with a few lines.

If the moderation was more directed towards judgement, i'd like to see more situations solved by giving people the "benefit of doubt". There will always be different interpretations of something, maybe entirely different to how the poster meant it to be. When a mod see's something that they KNOW can be interpreted in many different ways, i'd prefer for them to just post a note in the thread, or via a pm, to warn the poster that some people may have taken it the wrong way, and that they are verging on gaining themselves a warning, rather than just giving away warnings.

Well my dear thats how things are usually done around here. I've pm'd for eg Scabs a lot to ask him/tell him things about some posts he made. All mods do that as far as i'm concernd. Sometimes it takes a lot before a warning is actually given. If a person keeps trying to flame another person and after couple of written warnings he doesnt stop he either gets thread banned or he gets a warning.
Its not cos all of a sudden you see: warning (1) under someone's post that that warning has been given without an explenation.

[Satyn]

I'll take it you're not including me in your comments here seeing as I disagree about a hell of a lot, and in fact, even disagree in this thread - I agree with Tare, Banana is wrong and that we have locked threads we've been involved in, I wont hide that, although that certainly doesn't mean I think we did anything wrong, whether we were involved or not, the lockings were still totally justified.

true, but even if it wasnt ... ppl still make mistakes once in a while, we're not perfect either

[Tare]

I agree with Tare

quoted for extra attention

[Tare]

[quote="Satyn"]copied this from another thread that needs to stay on topic but since i really want to respond i'm answering it here.

I think one of the reasons why we became mods is cos of our opinions and cos ppl knew who we were. And think postcount had something to do with it aswell amongs other things. Oh and also cos i was sucking up to nana all the time ]
Actually Satyn, I personally feel only Quinlan got named a mod on valid reasons. (edit: valid reason: nana needed a mod for the Eclipse alliance and Quinlan was the most sensible choice; active poster, fair and, well, Dutch:D)
it's my >personal< opinion that the other new mods got promoted because of connections. Not that I really mind ofcourse, because that's how the world works most of the time

[Sharkith]

one small point options 3 and 4 are quite similar even though Xest has indicated the fine distinction between the two. Therefore you might want to think carefully about combining the results for these two at the end of the poll. - its your choice

[stupeh]

Well my dear thats how things are usually done around here. I've pm'd for eg Scabs a lot to ask him/tell him things about some posts he made. All mods do that as far as i'm concernd. Sometimes it takes a lot before a warning is actually given.

'Usually' being the word here... and infact, in my case it took a lot for me to get a proper explanation, after pushing for it, rather than the warning itself. It's this kind of thing that should be sorted out imo, 1 way for all, not 1 way for each mod.

[Lieva]

actually

only satyn and xest got modded cuz i know them
they also asked to be mods and their previous posts are well thought out intellegent.

lair was made an admin ages back because he was the mod in the old boards. I also contacted etharion shortly after these boards were opened but he declined as he no longer plays daoc.

takit is in na fianna dragun alliance
and quinlan is in eclipse alliance
they both also post alot and both are well respected on these boards though when you become a mod this apparently changes

[Maeloch]

Light modding only required imo, have a list of clearly defined verbotens perhaps for extreme stuff, but not like threads break down into total flame (imo) very often here (and think peeps can handle a flame war every other month or whenever it happens, as opposed to the permanent hostility u get on FH).