community rating.

[Lieva]

2 people disagree but they're voices are lost in the crowd even tho it may be a valid point

nah

if you vote negativly to someone and then someone posts positive after you - you loose mana to vote i think

i know something happens

[Erce]

Tbh, i think the system is waaaaay too complicated, its not transparent enough so its open to abuse. I hate it.

[Xest]

What I've seen so far, the system is genuinly used for rating postive and negative posts and thus might give the ones with bad posts something to think about. I'm hoping this system will improve the posting quality overall.
Maybe make it possible for Moderators to see who voted negative. If someone suspects someone is purposely harassing with neg votes, (for example when he gets a - on a decentish post), the mod can look it up and see if there's a voting pattern for that specific person.

Look harder then Been a few cases of abuse already.

The real issue with it is that it puts people off posting something contraversal even if their point is equally valid because even if they have a good point they'll still get rated down.

[Kallima]

How about a vote to see if people like the rating system or would prefer not to have it?

[Sharkith]

The real issue with it is that it puts people off posting something contraversal even if their point is equally valid because even if they have a good point they'll still get rated down.

I would have thought anyone who was prepared to make such a point would not really care what people think ? Otherwise everyone would be so frightened of anyones opinion that there would be no point in posting to begin with.

When you post you take a risk now you can see what people think if you are off line on some things then it might be good to know. As for personal vendettas - Ankh has a point and I hope that you will remove the lists of ratings from public consumption. That way the lists of ratings are simply a way for you guys to monitor things and cannot be subject to manipulation.

Equally to Ankh - if you have a negative rating and you think some people are after you then surely that rating is simply an indicator of how sad some people are. Obviously from your own construction it is nothing to be taken too seriously. Putting it in an overall rating list however I would agree is not constructive. In other words your view of your rating should entirely be for you and no-one else. Putting the list thing publicly in such a manner (except for Banana who is God like ofc ) is not really a constructive way to use the system.

So yes the system works well for post rating but when you make the unit of analysis persons then thats where it gets sticky.

Just my opinion ofc

Sharkith

[Tare]

Of course there are a few cases of people going nuts with the new system, but I still believe that in the long run this system will have a positive impact on the forum. Just give people a time to get used to the idea, all new systems tend to get abused right after their start

[Xest]

I would have thought anyone who was prepared to make such a point would not really care what people think ? Otherwise everyone would be so frightened of anyones opinion that there would be no point in posting to begin with.

That's sheer assumption though, no proof that that's the case whatsoever hence it's really not a valid point at all. Also, Banana's talking about tying this to forum rewards which makes the problem a thousand times worse.

Equally to Ankh - if you have a negative rating and you think some people are after you then surely that rating is simply an indicator of how sad some people are. Obviously from your own construction it is nothing to be taken too seriously.

Which is why it's totally pointless in the first place and ironically, overall does nothing but cause more friction.

It helps with such as self moderation - which is irrelevant now anyway, seeing as we produced a CoC and brought in more mods to mean self-moderation isn't even needed. Equally however for every little bit of self moderation it helps with it's already just causing even more friction and annoyance to other people.

If people have a point to make and feel passionate about it let them make it, as long as they don't go over the top (in which case the CoC/Mods come into play) then it's not a problem, don't make people hide their views or dampen their feelings just because of some silly easy to abuse shop/rating system.

[Tare]

I do agree with you Xest that connecting your Rating to a "giftshop" is a bad idea. The fact that people like your post should be the reward in itself, at least it is for me.

[Xest]

I do agree with you Xest that connecting your Rating to a "giftshop" is a bad idea. The fact that people like your post should be the reward in itself, at least it is for me.

Again though there's people who will abuse the system and mark people down even for a good post just for the hell of it or personal vendetta, until a change to the system is brought it that then falls into a landslide of people voting negative too just to score points for agreeing.

[Lieva]

if its helps.. no one can go below 0.00 comm rating now - well they can but it goes back to 0.00 at midnight
so no one will be negative for long anymore