What came first...

[Xest]

so... when you look rough you look like a guy who makes homemade pr0n

givf piccy!!!

But US customs let me straight through with a smile and they have retina scanners and take your finger print and everything! I blame it on the Canadian customs being French Canadians personally

[Sharkith]

Apart from the porn its probably because you look English.

[Xest]

Well the British passport was probably quite a give away too no ?

[Moley:)]

To answers Nibs question (part of it) .. how do we know a chicken came first. They just poultry we eat - isn't it the dinosaur/alien embryo or something .. in which case im came first cause i am god *gasp* All hail the moley :take: , god of ummm .. uberness :mwahaha:

:moley: <-- the idol of god , symbol of hope

OK i'll go back to my shout box now

[Sharkith]

Well the British passport was probably quite a give away too no ?

Not all Brits are English though even people from Barnsley have British passports!!

Mind you I also remember having trouble in Canadian customs at Winnipeg, it was 11.30pm we had just flown through Minnesota - wife, baby and child. Boy did they give us a hard time. It might be that we had gone to the US first?

...hmmm could be a general dislike to those that see the US as first on their list or smgt... Hope your having a good time are you in Quebec yet?

[Xest]

Not all Brits are English though even people from Barnsley have British passports!!

Mind you I also remember having trouble in Canadian customs at Winnipeg, it was 11.30pm we had just flown through Minnesota - wife, baby and child. Boy did they give us a hard time. It might be that we had gone to the US first?

...hmmm could be a general dislike to those that see the US as first on their list or smgt... Hope your having a good time are you in Quebec yet?

I'm back home now Going again in July/August. Not sure I'm staying in Canada though possibly going Boston -> New York -> Philadelphia then on down to Florida before heading back up again.

Didn't make it to Montreal in the end this time, went to Toronto instead where I was swarmed by a large army of Japanese tourists, went to Toronto zoo too where the monkeys were ever so slightly more intelligent than Canadian customs officers apparently.

I'll be flying direct this time so I'll see if I get stopped again to confirm whether or not your via the US theory is true or whether it's just that Canadian customs is run by retards, French retards.

[Lieva]

But US customs let me straight through with a smile and they have retina scanners and take your finger print and everything! I blame it on the Canadian customs being French Canadians personally

well their president was caught doing you know what with you know who so no wonder they let peeps with pr0n through
im surprised they didnt offer you a pr0n credit note

[Ankh Morpork]

Didn't make it to Montreal in the end this time, went to Toronto instead where I was swarmed by a large army of Japanese tourists,

I bet they thought you were Ron Jeremy tbh.

/Ankh

[Childofkhain]

the first form of life was belived to have formed like this:

hydrocarbon molecules in the water formed a ring as oil does water repellant side on the inside and so on, in the centre of the globule of hydrocarbons a complex mixture of chemicals became trapped, these chemicals slowly "digested" the hydrocarbons until there was only an outer layer and a mix of very basic chemicals on the inside this is how we belive the first bacterium were formed. Of course its entirly possible that somthing else occurd however atm that is what bio chemists believe.

<studying bio chemistry and micro biology>

in regards to the chicken it would have been a batch of eggs that hatched into a mutation of an origional bird - these then either mated with each other <possible for birds> or mated with their parent >species< and via genetics came out on top because of natural selection (perhaps by having the dominant "chicken" gene) and thus we now have chickens instead of the parent species.

[Lairiodd]

what is the possibility of two organisms having the same genetic mutation in the same place and being of seperate sex's? (asumming to start with every life-form on the planet wasn't asexual; and the need for a partner to procreate was shall we say essential).

Very small, therefore your assumption is probably wrong. One theory for the development of sex is that it started as sharing of some DNA (like bacteria do). This gave a boost to those species that did it and so more and more sharing happened until the new organism was 50% each ( rather than say 10% of the donor and 90% of the receiver ).

Sex is actually really good from an evolution perspective, positive traits spread faster and negative traits are supressed.

The thing to bare in mind is how utterly vast the universe is, when you consider how many different planets there are made up of different combinations of chemicals and such you can realise that with all those combinations and all those chances that it's pretty likely that eventually you're going to get the winning combination (i.e. Earth and it's species).

There is also an arguement that universes with different physics are possible. You could have simple changes like the electron being heavier or maybe completely different physics. It turns out if you change any of the physics constants by much, you result in a universe less likely for life. For example, there is a nuclear constant, that if you change it slightly then the fusion process in stars would have probllems ( or was it that it won't produce carbon ). Anyway, point being these parameters seem set up for life.

Two options here, say God set them that way or assume that there are countless universes where life cannot happen and the reason we aren't in one of them is cos life cannot happen.

i think that the egg came first. the chicken that was born from the egg was the result of a mutation, and he couldnt appear before his egg. therefore, the egg came first.

The egg would have the same DNA as the chicken it produces . The mutation occured during fertilisation, i.e. when the egg came into existance .