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what about Kol-14? (or is it coal-14?)

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[Xest]

Just wondering also Gandelf, if you could answer these questions for me:

What made god?

How long has god existed?

Why does god exist, what is his purpose?

Where is god?

[Heta]

I call my penis god from occasion to occasion

[Luz]

I kinda hope there is a God after all, so that when I die I can go to heaven or hell and with my newfound knowledge I could kick the devil or god in the nuts (btw god created us in his image, is that male or female?) !

If God exists everything is possible and then I would take over and rule over the world in eternity


How big is "heaven" to house all the people that come there each day?
Is heaven clouds and stuff as you would imagine? Are people naked? Is sex forbidden unless you marry some angel?

[Cromcruaich]

If evolution is more than just a theory, then why don't we see any half-breeds in the world? Why does every species seem to be the "final model"? Why is there no half-breed between an ape and a man, or even half Chimp and half Gorilla?

If man is descended from ape and it is the so called "logic" of evolution that we have the survival of the fittest, then why are there still apes and monkeys, because surely, the principal of survival of the fittest would have meant that apes would have become extinct.

There is so much diversity in life, yet in no case will you ever find half-breeds.... which would tend to favour a Creationist point of view.

They still haven't found the "missing link".

How would a plant know how to grow thorns to protect itself? How did certain creates know how to grow wings? If you're about to eaten by a dinosaur, you can't suddenly decide to evolve and grow wings to escape! Evolutionist claim that's all down to natural selection and genetic mishaps, but again that's just theory and unproven. It is more easy for me to believe in creation, because the way the world is suggests it.

There is however, a form of micro-evolution. That is why some races of people have dark hair or dark skin, or slightly different facial features etc. etc, but they are still human. They are not new creatures. Evolutionists can theorise about what sort of fossilised remains are to be found in different strata, but they are till THEORISING. Theory is still theory until it can be backed up by impirical research. So far evolution is still in the category of being a theory. Different colourings on moths is not evidence of macro-evolution, as I say, it's no more than racial differences, but they're still moths.

Hi Gand,

Really there are answers to all these, many you could even think through yourself without referring to them.

The take home point is that the core mechanism, genetic variation causing phenotype differences that are then favoured by natural selection can be observed in populations within lifetimes. These are observed and observable now, thats without even discussing creation of seperate domestic species by human intervention within modern history, that has happened - just look at a list of recognised kennel club breeds for evidence.

If you arnt frightened of what you find, I genuinley encourage you to search for those answers yourself. Ofcourse you probably dont want to find them.

Also, why dont you turn your critical eye to analysing the shortcoming of the creationist theory? See what questions you are confronted with then?

Finally, to reiterate a point I made earlier - I really dont see why you are threatened by evolution - it in no one prooves that your god doesnt exist.

Overall the survival of the fittest should actually be called the survival of the fittest within the local environment, also natural selection requires selective pressure to be exerted on those populations, in most instances selective pressure is small because ecosystems are a network of interdependancies - selective pressure is only produced when you have shifts within those ecosystems, such as climate change and the introduction of foreign species. Its notable that at the moment we are going through what would be considered a mass extinction event as homo sapiens demonstrates what the introduction of us as a foreign species to most areas of the planet causes.

[Cromcruaich]

Now its time for the christians to put forward there theory of how all the species that have roamed the earth came into being. God did it all just wont do- lets get some detail here.

[Luz]

Now its time for the christians to put forward there theory of how all the species that have roamed the earth came into being. God did it all just one do - lets get some detail here.

wasnt the argument as above that God created the earth to make it LOOK like its old and placed bones just to make it look old? Or something

[Cromcruaich]

wasnt the argument as above that God created the earth to make it LOOK like its old and placed bones just to make it look old? Or something

Thats the fossil record. Am after how creationist theory details creation of current species. If god made them, then he must be really angry at us for causing the current mass extinction event were in the middle of.

[Luz]

God knows everything, God knew we were going to destroy certain species so he made a few extra ones that we could destroy while leaving the ones he liked most unharmed!

Its so simple

[Gandelf]

Carbon dating.

Owned!

If God created the world to look as if it was old, then Carbon dating would be invalid, because all the research that Carbon dating is based on, would have been based on information that was made to look old. Can you see my point? If your point of reference is based on something that you think is true, when in fact it's false, then any results based on that point of reference will be inaccurate.

I'm not saying that God did create the world to look old, but merely proposing a mental exercise based on that idea, to see where it leads.

For the books, I don't personally believe in my suggestion, but I am merely seeing how people respond to it.