Why do us humans discriminate?

Heta · Post by **Heta** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 12:49 pm

Lieva wrote:that actually makes sence

but, humans have a soul..

Moley:) · Post by **Moley:)** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 1:09 pm

Don't think in our world everyone will be treated equal. that's whyi find it funny people looking forl ife on other planets when we can't even respect our own.

OohhoO · Post by **OohhoO** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 1:17 pm

So in the end there can only be one?
No diversity? (since we apparently can't tolerate it)
All of us the same?
Same skin-colour, same habits, same religion, same opinions?
yuck

I guess pleading for more tolerance is out of the question?

Moley:) · Post by **Moley:)** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 1:24 pm

That does sound way too much like the national socialist party.

We have really grown from back then

Monk · Post by **Monk** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 1:27 pm

i recently wrote an essay about Peter Singer, a philosopher, who wrote out his case for animal rights, based on racism and sexism,

basically his arguement was that discrmination based on appearences was wrong, in essence whats the difference between discriminating against black people on the colour of their skin, compared to discrminating against an animal just because she/he has 4 legs?
(thats a very shortened down version

if any wants to read the essay i can email it to them or just look up Peter Singer on google )

so while i was going through his work, things started to make more sense in some respects, but what i really liked was his case for animal rights was pretty strong, so flip it over and the arguements for equality amongst humans becomes even stronger,

anyway if anyone gets the time give it a read, very interesting

Labbe · Post by **Labbe** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 1:57 pm

OohhoO wrote:So in the end there can only be one?
No diversity? (since we apparently can't tolerate it)
All of us the same?
Same skin-colour, same habits, same religion, same opinions?
yuck

I guess pleading for more tolerance is out of the question?

You grasp for something that doesn't exist.
You see all the people in the world as one organism that should be able to compute.

We are induviduals, yet we belong to something and that something isn't Humanity. Humanity is too large for a single mind to compute and because of that we try to divide Humanity into smaller pieces like ~race, colors, cult, etc.

Of course you can see the troubles with this and try to find a solution but your mind(mine too) is too small to even compute the question.

A global mind with sub induvidual minds and making the whole earth a super organism would solve everthing.

(Again, don't take my posts too seriously)

Labbe · Post by **Labbe** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 2:04 pm

Ovi wrote:Well put, but it isn't quite that simple.

Of course we all defend our flock, but why do flocks become aggressive with each other? Is it because the flock is frightened, greedy or power hungry? I actually think it's as you said in the other thread, because it's survival of the fittest flock!

yeah, they kind of relate.
Problems often comes when a flock expands their territory (clashing into another flocks territory).
Another problem is that with todays technology we don't have thoose lines drawn and that makes us unsure on wich ground to stand and that can lead to lot's of troubles(depression, agression, insanity, etc).

(I may have taken badly examples but I hope you get the big picture)

OohhoO · Post by **OohhoO** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 2:14 pm

I have long thought that many of the problems men currently have with aggression & depression stam from the impossibility within our modern societies to be a man. Population is waaay to dense for us to be able to fulfill our primary job as hunter/killer & defender of the cave & the territory surrounding it. Since we can't fulfill our natural role, many of us either direct our aggression outwards & become violent, or inwards & become depressive.

Labbe · Post by **Labbe** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 2:26 pm

OohhoO wrote:I have long thought that many of the problems men currently have with aggression & depression stam from the impossibility within our modern societies to be a man. Population is waaay to dense for us to be able to fulfill our primary job as hunter/killer & defender of the cave & the territory surrounding it. Since we can't fulfill our natural role, many of us either direct our aggression outwards & become violent, or inwards & become depressive.

A really good point! I can't even debate it. It's just a very good point

Post by **Lieva** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 6:08 pm

Heta wrote:but, humans have a soul..

from the day ive had i would have to disagree...