Knowing what is Evil...

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Do MOST people know the difference between Good and Evil?

Poll ended at Tue Mar 06, 2007 8:51 am

No. There is no good or evil, only right and wrong.
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No. There is no good or evil, only right and wrong.
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No. There is no good or evil, only right and wrong.
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<ankh> wrote:To enjoy watching someone suffer is proberbly a brain damage and NOT evilness.

Edit: a child is never evil, so why should it turn into evil later on? It's all about how they are raised and what kind of problems they encounter in their life.

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ooh i got a counterthing for that but will have to wait til I get home as the link is actually on Penny Arcade but the place I saw it was another web comic ;)
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I have mentioned a few billion times.
It is only evil if the person has done nothing to you.
Nothing that warrents the action.
And beign driven to dispair isnt evil also.
I mean in sound mind and body you want to cause the person standing in frount of you pain simply because they exsist.

When you say brain damage..I dont think it means the same to you as it does to me. What do you mean by it?
To me it means a disability which is either birth defect or from a car crash (and all other forms of whacking head to cause it). As in actual brain damage where as you seem to be describing some type of mental illness?
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Mental Illness ofc - which isnt the same thing as Evil :)

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Yes but you could reasonable argue that we're all mentally ill to some degree, & also probably that we become more & more so the older we get.

I've never seen a definition of "normal" which you couldn't argue with, & even if you could definitively define "normal", the "normal" person would be such an exception that you still wouldn't be able to call it "normal".
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Post by Labbe »

Right or Wrong, Good or Evil.

That are words that humans use to get to know eachother.
The problem is that there is no thing as right or wrong.

People are one of the few creatures on earth that has the capacity to acknowlegde empathy.
Empathy is the keyword for everything. If you lack empathy you can't handle right or wrong if you don't have a manual that tells you wich choice is the correct one in every single situation.
The right decision/choice is based on the sum of value in people's acceptance.

The nature doesn't judge creatures for their faults it only live by one rule:
Survival of the fitest.
In our society that would be considered wrong.


My point:
We can argue about right and wrong, good and evil until we die without comming up with an answer. Nature will still not judge you.
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<ankh> wrote:Mental Illness ofc - which isnt the same thing as Evil :)

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no thats not evil :)
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Evil is just something religion made up to tell right from wrong in the eyes of God.

So Good and Evil same as right and wrong .. Depends entirely on what your following, if anything to acknowledge what is seen as evil and whats not. Killing for example, evil if humans do it. not if animals do, as it's their way of living.

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ok
the links i promised :)

Please note theyre not nice reading.

This is Gabes rant

http://www.penny-arcade.com/2007/02/19

in regards to this news

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/02/19/homele ... index.html

This is the reply to Gabes rant.

http://www.penny-arcade.com/2007/02/21
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But those are old news :)

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I think it would be wrong for anyone to suggest that evil and good are concepts that are forced upon people solely by religion.

Yes, religions do influence people in this area, but if there were no religion, I still think that people would develop a sense of what is evil and good.

However, let's assume for one moment that there is no god, that there is no "hereafter" and that when we die, that is the end, you cease to exist, end of story. So, if this is the case then we must assume that religion was invented by man. If man has evolved, then we must conclude that his thought processes are a result of evolution. If you don't accept that, then you are saying that there is a higher power at work that gave us a sense of what is evil and good. So, if evil and good do exist and if there is no god, then they are surely a result of evolution, because no higher power exists to influence our thought processes.

So, what I'm saying is that if you want to say that the concept of what is evil and good is down to religion, then you need to be sure who (or what) you're pinpointing the blame upon. If you say it is religion and there is a god, then you would have to blame god. If there is no god, then you have to blame evolution.

I'm not saying by the way, that anyone is blaming anyone/anything. It's just a point of view I thought was worthy of consideration for the benefit of genuine discussion.

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